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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 12:37:52

Yoshua wrote:I just heard that the Chinese have miraculously managed to sequence the Coronavirus genome in record time.

I other words they created the virus.

If they also released the virus on purpose, then they already also have the cure.

******* speculation.

Your conspiracy theory lacks a reasonable motive. If the virus is Han Chinese specific it would be of no use to the Chinese. If they created it ,it would have to be universally active and any deliberate release would be in one of China's competitors. South Korea, Japan or the USA being chief targets.
If your going to wildly speculate please do a better job of it so it makes people wonder if you might be correct. This falls far short of that.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 12:53:55

China Underreporting Virus Cases By Over 100,000 White House Claims, As 15th American Fall Sick

Update (1015ET): Following last night's debacle over China reporting, Fox News' Edward Lawrence reports that administration sources say they believe China is under reporting the number of coronavirus cases by at least 100,000 in China.


According to our graphs that are modeled after the SARS, MERS, and early Chinese data up to day 10, the world wide contraction rate has peaked at 673,000 a day. This will continue until the virus has run out of hosts, or mutates. Which would be 5.3 years for just China if a mutations doesn't occur. An effective vaccine may, or may not affect that time period. Again according to our graphs 2.1% of those who display symptoms will die, or 14,000 a day. To date, for reasons unknown, the disease has been primarily confined to mainland China; although there has been similar contraction rates observed aboard some cruise ships. With just China's potential 1.3 billion hosts, this is none other than a world wide pandemic. Its death rate could exceed the Spanish Flu of 50 million if it jumps into India full blown.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby bochen777 » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 13:00:08

shortonoil wrote:China Underreporting Virus Cases By Over 100,000 White House Claims, As 15th American Fall Sick

Update (1015ET): Following last night's debacle over China reporting, Fox News' Edward Lawrence reports that administration sources say they believe China is under reporting the number of coronavirus cases by at least 100,000 in China.


According to our graphs that are modeled after the SARS, MERS, and early Chinese data up to day 10, the world wide contraction rate has peaked at 673,000 a day. This will continue until the virus has run out of hosts, or mutates. Which would be 5.3 years for just China if a mutations doesn't occur. An effective vaccine may, or may not affect that time period. Again according to our graphs 2.1% of those who display symptoms will die, or 14,000 a day. To date, for reasons unknown, the disease has been primarily confined to mainland China; although there has been similar contraction rates observed aboard some cruise ships. With just China's potential 1.3 billion hosts, this is none other than a world wide pandemic. Its death rate could exceed the Spanish Flu of 50 million if it jumps into India full blown.



China didnt bend over so America did the virus to collapse China so it can move its factories to India. It wont target Indians, they have no cases. And India China border is a tall mountain like a natural wall, even airbourne virus wont pass.

A biovirus was the biggest play America had left to make after a failed trade war and failed tech war. America wanted China to voluntarily give up its tech ascension ambitions and stick to being the worlds cheap factory and China didnt agree.

As recent as 2015, Apple (most valued US company at the time) was making a killing exploiting cheap Chinese labor so it could make a phone costing $400, turn around selling it for $1000, of which China only got $8 cut of the pie, then on top of that flip it around and upsell it to the Chinese people at even higher margins. Since then, the likes of Huawei, Oppo, OnePlus, Xiaomi, all woke up and squeezed Apple and Samsung out of the Chinese domestic market. The Korean Samsung now only has about 1% of the Chinese marketshare. Apple is dead in China. All the Chinese are now using homegrown.

Same for its auto ambitions, even more the Tesla scam there had been the Chinese BYD that makes the vast majority of its EV cars. Germany is now outdated and obsolete and cannot catch up to China in terms of producing EVs. Why do you think CIA did a coup in Bolivia after China secured a large lithium deal guaranteeing its access to resources to build out its domestic EV dreams?

In China highspeed train is very developed and more economical than airplanes but even here the Chinese are making its own C919, CR929 to replace the need to purchase Boeing MAX, Airbus NEO etc and in the coming decades the idea was to rely on homegrown and then export these airplanes at cheap cost to subsidize the rest of the developing world and all the Africa nations it was helping out in its Belt Road project.

America saw this and connected the dots and realized this couldn't keep going on unchallenged. Next thing you know, CNN puts out some bs story about bat soup and snakes and a wet market or two...

Per GDP PPP china is larger than all of EU nations combined, once it climbed the tech ladder it no longer needed to trade with America, US saw writing on the wall that eventually Chinese was going to decouple at time of their choosing so America forced China hand by fast forwarding the timeline so it plays to US advantages
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Yoshua » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 13:35:58

It only took three days for France to sequence the Coronavirus genome. It doesn't seem to be very hard to sequence the genome of the virus.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 114748.htm
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 13:49:18

It wont target Indians, they have no cases.


India has no cases because they have no way of testing for it. 2019-nCov test kits are not available in India.

How much does the CCP pay you to spread this nonsense? Can I get in on it?


Hope its not in Yuan! When this fully breaks China's currency will look like a rubber ducky that got run over by a MAC truck. Anyway, the ethnic Chinese American's aren't getting it any worse than anyone else in America. The Jews and Salves, and Poles will never get it. Too pig headed. This is strictly a China phenomenon. How far it can spread into the remainder of Asia is the real question?

And, Yes the Chinese made it, at least they said they did. Now, according to their story, (cough, cough), it was made as a tool for Ebola, SARS, MERS vaccine research. It escaped from a Chinese specified Bio-Level 4 lab; that was built to typical Chinese specifications. That is were they steal half of the concrete, and the door seals before the project begins. And it got away! Who could have guessed?

The Chinese said they made it, the CIA will definitely say they didn’t? The Chinese stole some coronovirus from a Canadian Lab. The thief ended up in Wuhan working at the Chinese Bio-lab. The Chinese PhD that created it said he knew it was deadly dangerous. He also thought that his Chinese built EV would do 140 mph. Talk about an intellectual black out!

This will go down as the most expensive mistake in human history.

We need to start considering how we are not going to repeat it!
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby bochen777 » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 13:55:56

shortonoil wrote:
It wont target Indians, they have no cases.


India has no cases because they have no way of testing for it. 2019-nCov test kits are not available in India.

How much does the CCP pay you to spread this nonsense? Can I get in on it?


Hope its not in Yuan! When this fully breaks China's currency will look like a rubber ducky that got run over by a MAC truck. Anyway, the ethnic Chinese American's aren't getting it any worse than anyone else in America. The Jews and Salves, and Poles will never get it. Too pig headed. This is strictly a China phenomenon. How far it can spread into the remainder of Asia is the real question?

And, Yes the Chinese made it, at least they said they did. Now, according to their story, (cough, cough), it was made as a tool for Ebola, SARS, MERS vaccine research. It escaped from a Chinese specified Bio-Level 4 lab; that was built to typical Chinese specifications. That is were they steal half of the concrete, and the door seals before the project begins. And it got away! Who could have guessed?

The Chinese said they made it, the CIA will definitely say they didn’t? The Chinese stole some coronovirus from a Canadian Lab. The thief ended up in Wuhan working at the Chinese Bio-lab. The Chinese PhD that created it said he knew it was deadly dangerous. He also thought that his Chinese built EV would do 140 mph. Talk about an intellectual black out!

This will go down as the most expensive mistake in human history.

We need to start considering how we are not going to repeat it!



nope wrong again, this was no accidental leak, if anything is embarassing to China is the fact CIA got to one of their own scientists. every man has a price they say. wuhan lab was just a cover

but it didnt catch on, hence CIA sent another agent to the wuhan wet market.
CNN published a story back in 15th Dec, but when the first didnt catch fire and was a false start they pulled it and tried again.

SARS was CIA too, Bush knew Iraq was gonna keep US busy for a while so Hong Kong back then was 33% China GDP so it made sense to release it there.

They also took advantage of the US troops in Wuhan last year for the world military games for plausible cover if caught. Dont forget when the last chartered US fight left wuhan, Chinese found sealed bio containers burried under the evacuated US embassy in Wuhan

Now in 2020 Hong Kong barely 2% China GDP, US wss supposed to attack Iran in Jan and the wuhan virus was released last december in anticipation of the Iran war. Wuhan is center of China belt and road, a 5G showcase, and described as Chinese Chicago with projected 8% growth rate GDP in 2020
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 14:50:00

I have a feeling this is going to be the biggest story of our lifetimes and the black swan event that changes the entire landscape globally.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby bochen777 » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 14:54:54

Armageddon wrote:I have a feeling this is going to be the biggest story of our lifetimes and the black swan event that changes the entire landscape globally.


yes, but not for the superficial reasons you might think, there is a lot of behind the scenes the media and public doesnt know about


by this action of shadow war against China and its sphere of influence Anerica has decreed it stakes the high risk high reward position of winner takes all and foresakes any possibility of peaceful coexistence, etc. The message has been sent, the war has started, we crosses the rubicon, there is no going back. in the coming months I guess those who watch the news carefully will see how the china responds

even with all the crap that had been going on, 2019 will be remembered as the last normal year
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 15:21:00

bochen777 wrote:
Armageddon wrote:I have a feeling this is going to be the biggest story of our lifetimes and the black swan event that changes the entire landscape globally.


yes, but not for the superficial reasons you might think, there is a lot of behind the scenes the media and public doesnt know about


by this action of shadow war against China and its sphere of influence Anerica has decreed it stakes the high risk high reward position of winner takes all and foresakes any possibility of peaceful coexistence, etc. The message has been sent, the war has started, we crosses the rubicon, there is no going back. in the coming months I guess those who watch the news carefully will see how the china responds

even with all the crap that had been going on, 2019 will be remembered as the last normal year




It wouldn’t surprise me if this was a bio weapon. There’s just no way of ever knowing for sure.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby bochen777 » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 15:33:06

Armageddon wrote:
bochen777 wrote:
Armageddon wrote:I have a feeling this is going to be the biggest story of our lifetimes and the black swan event that changes the entire landscape globally.


yes, but not for the superficial reasons you might think, there is a lot of behind the scenes the media and public doesnt know about


by this action of shadow war against China and its sphere of influence Anerica has decreed it stakes the high risk high reward position of winner takes all and foresakes any possibility of peaceful coexistence, etc. The message has been sent, the war has started, we crosses the rubicon, there is no going back. in the coming months I guess those who watch the news carefully will see how the china responds

even with all the crap that had been going on, 2019 will be remembered as the last normal year




It wouldn’t surprise me if this was a bio weapon. There’s just no way of ever knowing for sure.



there is a difference between the public never knowing for sure, and the governments coming to a conclusion of 'sure enough'...
this is about forcing china's hand to play into a strategy which is advantageous to america, because with this blow there is no way china can afford to continue to not reply/respond. China prefers nonconfrontation because that is beneficial for China, but that only works to a certain extent, past a threshold it becomes detrimental not to defend. COVID-19 pushes it well past that threshold.
but really at some point it is about rebalancing regardess of the root cause of the upset, the "not knowing for sure" can goes both ways as well. america realizes there will be blowback and unintended consequences but at the same time must have concluded that this strategy still gives it the best odds.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 15:34:30

bochen777 wrote:
Armageddon wrote:
bochen777 wrote:
Armageddon wrote:I have a feeling this is going to be the biggest story of our lifetimes and the black swan event that changes the entire landscape globally.


yes, but not for the superficial reasons you might think, there is a lot of behind the scenes the media and public doesnt know about


by this action of shadow war against China and its sphere of influence Anerica has decreed it stakes the high risk high reward position of winner takes all and foresakes any possibility of peaceful coexistence, etc. The message has been sent, the war has started, we crosses the rubicon, there is no going back. in the coming months I guess those who watch the news carefully will see how the china responds

even with all the crap that had been going on, 2019 will be remembered as the last normal year




It wouldn’t surprise me if this was a bio weapon. There’s just no way of ever knowing for sure.



there is a difference between the public never knowing for sure, and the governments coming to a conclusion of 'sure enough'...
this is about forcing china's hand to play into a strategy which is advantageous to america, because with this blow there is no way china can afford to continue to not reply/respond. China prefers nonconfrontation because that is beneficial for China, but that only works to a certain extent, past a threshold it becomes detrimental not to defend. COVID-19 pushes it well past that threshold.
but really at some point it is about rebalancing regardess of the root cause of the upset, the "not knowing for sure" can goes both ways as well. america realizes there will be blowback and unintended consequences but at the same time must have concluded that this strategy still gives it the best odds.




Does China really have a next move at this point?
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby bochen777 » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 15:40:08

Armageddon wrote:
bochen777 wrote:
Armageddon wrote:
bochen777 wrote:
yes, but not for the superficial reasons you might think, there is a lot of behind the scenes the media and public doesnt know about


by this action of shadow war against China and its sphere of influence Anerica has decreed it stakes the high risk high reward position of winner takes all and foresakes any possibility of peaceful coexistence, etc. The message has been sent, the war has started, we crosses the rubicon, there is no going back. in the coming months I guess those who watch the news carefully will see how the china responds

even with all the crap that had been going on, 2019 will be remembered as the last normal year




It wouldn’t surprise me if this was a bio weapon. There’s just no way of ever knowing for sure.



there is a difference between the public never knowing for sure, and the governments coming to a conclusion of 'sure enough'...
this is about forcing china's hand to play into a strategy which is advantageous to america, because with this blow there is no way china can afford to continue to not reply/respond. China prefers nonconfrontation because that is beneficial for China, but that only works to a certain extent, past a threshold it becomes detrimental not to defend. COVID-19 pushes it well past that threshold.
but really at some point it is about rebalancing regardess of the root cause of the upset, the "not knowing for sure" can goes both ways as well. america realizes there will be blowback and unintended consequences but at the same time must have concluded that this strategy still gives it the best odds.




Does China really have a next move at this point?


not in terms of bioretialiation, no.
if this is a chinese civilization ender then might as well launch the df41, equalize.... then take their chances starting over in a world where everyone is back to zero.

but it might not be anything so extreme just yet.

i guess we will all find out in the coming months and years how this all plays out, but your right there is no going back
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 16:23:29

So the virus has two missions?

take out China
take the blame for the economic collapse


Not saying it’s true, but very plausible
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby bochen777 » Thu 13 Feb 2020, 19:28:25

Armageddon wrote:Is Corona unstoppable?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=01L-SktgzXc



I think in less than three weeks time maybe Trump will launch an EMP overhead all of China, knocks all of Chinese internet, electric grid, power, communications offline
Then followed by a preemptive nuclear strike to decipitate the CCP before they figure out what happened

Xi better get ready....

Trumps sidekick the Bannon has spoken

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/trump-a ... nping.html
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Cog » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 00:08:44

The doomers and Chinese apologists have really jumped the shark. Amused I am.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 09:37:50

The doomers and Chinese apologists have really jumped the shark. Amused I am.


Not for long.

So the virus has two missions?


The virus has one mission; to reproduce until no hosts remain available for it to inhabit. It is moving across Asia with new mass lock downs happening in Vietnam, and increasing cases in Singapore. It is traveling incessantly across the face of the globe, and the world of man is dying as it moves. All attempts to restrain it have so far been to no avail. It is a silent moving Leviathan for which man has little understanding, and no defense. It is the darkest of things that we have yet to spawn. Billions are now in peril from the workings of our own hands as increasing numbers perish by the day. Upon its passing nothing will remaining of what we once knew. It will have made a complete total mockery of our hubris.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby JuanP » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 10:20:41

Another day has passed and nothing has changed; same as it ever was. I will make a prediction. Tomorrow both China and the USA will still be around, as will President Xi and President Trump.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby asg70 » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 12:47:00

JuanP wrote:Another day has passed and nothing has changed; same as it ever was. I will make a prediction. Tomorrow both China and the USA will still be around, as will President Xi and President Trump.
Trump 2020! Trump Jr. 2024! Trump Jr. 2028!


And Armageddon will still be spamming this board.

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