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Re: Tourists are Killing the Planet

Unread postby KingM » Wed 21 Nov 2018, 16:56:34

Newfie wrote:Actually probably not. Rail transport has a pretty heavy carbon footprint. It MAY be Ok when it is heavily housed in an urban situation. Same with busses, run full at rush hour they make sense. But those lightly used late night and week end runs? Often greener to drive, especially if you have 4 or more folks together.


Not really, no. The train is going to be running whether you're on it or not, so unless you're chartering the train, it's always greener to hop onto a train to go where you want to go.
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Re: Tourists are Killing the Planet

Unread postby onlooker » Wed 21 Nov 2018, 17:28:59

Perhaps, we should change the thread to car culture is killing the planet
How many cars are there in the world currently?

It is estimated that over 1 billion passenger cars travel the streets and roads of the world today. 
The 1 billion-unit mark was reached in 2010 for the first time ever.




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Re: Tourists are Killing the Planet

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 21 Nov 2018, 19:39:07

onlooker wrote:Perhaps, we should change the thread to car culture is killing the planet
How many cars are there in the world currently?

It is estimated that over 1 billion passenger cars travel the streets and roads of the world today. 
The 1 billion-unit mark was reached in 2010 for the first time ever.




http://www.worldometers.info/cars/


2010 was in this sense quite a while ago, since then China alone has added over 100 million vehicles to its streets and roads! Then you need to add in India, Thailand, Indonesia and so on that are all additionally undergoing rapid expansion of their vehicle fleets.
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Re: Tourists are Killing the Planet

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 21 Nov 2018, 20:06:16

I was very happy to see that the Norwegian Hurtigrupen Cruise Line, which specializes in high latitude trips to the Arctic and the Antarctic, is shifting all their cruise ships over to run on fuel made from rotten fish.

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This means the Hurtigrupen Cruises will be "carbon neutral", at least in terms of the fuel for the cruise ships.

This is pretty remarkable.......cruise ships whose carbon emissions will be roughly equivalent to a bicycle.

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Re: Tourists are Killing the Planet

Unread postby Revi » Wed 28 Nov 2018, 14:45:00

I had an idea for low carbon tourism. Here in Maine we could be leaders. Ideas: follow Thoreau around Maine in a canoe. Take a windjammer cruise around the coast. Do Outward Bound. All carbon free trips. Of course you'll have to pull up the sails and paddle your canoe! You can get to most of them with a bus!

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Re: Tourists are Killing the Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 14 Jan 2019, 04:15:38

Nice idea, Revi.

Meanwhile: Air travel is surging. That’s a huge problem for the climate.

US airlines have an abysmal carbon footprint.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environm ... ons-travel

Greenhouse gas emissions in the United States appear to be on the rise again after years of decline. The Rhodium Group recently released preliminary estimates showing carbon dioxide emissions overall surged 3.4 percent in 2018, with the transportation sector leading the way as the largest source of emissions for the third year in a row.

Interestingly, the bump in transportation emissions didn’t come from cars. Car travel increased compared to 2017, but gasoline consumption decreased. That’s in part because overall fuel economy in passenger cars is improving as engines become more efficient and electric cars become more popular.

Instead, emissions from trucking and air travel helped contribute to the overall increase: Demand for both diesel and jet fuel increased about 3 percent in 2018...
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Re: Tourists are Killing the Planet

Unread postby Revi » Mon 14 Jan 2019, 14:01:57

Flying is the ultimate consumer product. There are some who travel for business, but most of it is unnecessary nowadays, with the internet. The marketing of far away places is mostly for people to engage in conspicuous consumption. (except for going to Maine, of course, which is okay. Especially if you spend some money while you're here)
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