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Re: Wildfires 2018

Unread postby pstarr » Fri 03 Aug 2018, 17:04:46

Little has changed. Industrial clearcutting continues unabated today. Creating future same-age stunted straggly diseased forests that will burn a firestorm 40 years from now.
While RocDoc is correct - more forest fires 100 years ago - they were small ground crawling natural fires that avoided climbing to the crown. These natural fires operated like the forest vacuum cleaner. Today's fires are very different - every fire that breaks out now has the potential to be a stand replacing fire.

rocman is right. Old growth conifers rarely burn. The crown may be hundred feet or more above the ground. The trees are far apart. The forest floor is mostly free of brush. The trunks hard and clean. Not a lot of fuel to burn
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Re: Wildfires 2018

Unread postby jedrider » Fri 03 Aug 2018, 18:17:06

Just so anyone outside of California knows what we are up against:

https://sf.curbed.com/2018/8/2/17644454/california-fires-carr-fire-ferguson-fire-records

All of these blazes are the long-predicted outcome of a series of bad luck factors for the state, as Vox explained in a recent Carr Fire story:

These fires follow a “global heat wave” of searing, record-setting heat as well as exceptional drought. [...] A lot of variables to converged to create a sweeping conflagration like the Carr Fire, but in short:

1. It’s hot.

2. It’s dry.

3. It’s windy.

4. Just about everything on the ground is flammable.


It's just bad luck!
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Re: Wildfires 2018

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 13 Aug 2018, 15:33:55

More than 100 large wildfires in US as new blazes erupt

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/12/more-th ... r=sharebar
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Re: Wildfires 2018

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 13 Aug 2018, 15:58:47

onlooker wrote:More than 100 large wildfires in US as new blazes erupt

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/12/more-th ... r=sharebar
the skies here are a bit reddish from the Carr fire.
No worries here, we are in the cool coastal belt. Though my wife has to drive east next week
All the roads east are closed save one. And it might close soon.
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Re: Wildfires 2018

Unread postby onlooker » Mon 13 Aug 2018, 16:13:35

pstarr wrote:
onlooker wrote:More than 100 large wildfires in US as new blazes erupt

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/12/more-th ... r=sharebar
the skies here are a bit reddish from the Carr fire.
No worries here, we are in the cool coastal belt. Though my wife has to drive east next week
All the roads east are closed save one. And it might close soon.

Stay safe P. Not Pbrain :lol:
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Re: Wildfires 2018

Unread postby pstarr » Mon 13 Aug 2018, 17:39:00

onlooker wrote:
pstarr wrote:
onlooker wrote:More than 100 large wildfires in US as new blazes erupt

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/12/more-th ... r=sharebar
the skies here are a bit reddish from the Carr fire.
No worries here, we are in the cool coastal belt. Though my wife has to drive east next week
All the roads east are closed save one. And it might close soon.

Stay safe P. Not Pbrain :lol:

Her friend is driving up to Medford Oregon, for Lazic eye surgery. My wife will be the copilot for the drive back. A bit concerned about the smoke and the hot weather (above 100f), but won't be close to the fire itself.

But then there is this from a few days ago:
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THE KLONDIKE FIRE NEAR SELMA IN JOSEPHINE COUNTY NOW POSES A THREAT THAT COULD IMPACT THIS HIGHWAY WITH LITTLE OR NO WARNING. BE CHECKING CURRENT HIGHWAY STATUS BEFORE TRAVELING.


Yikes! Hiway 199 goes right through Selma. We will be keeping an eye on it. She leaves tomorrow.
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Re: Wildfires 2018

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 14 Aug 2018, 01:39:00

Yikes!

Do keep a sharp lookout and stay safe!

Meanwhile, don't forget that this isn't just a California thing. Much of Europe is still suffering from extreme heat and wildfires:

https://abcnews.go.com/International/eu ... d=57081024

And of course the Arctic is still on fire, and no, this isn't normal:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... way-flame/

Ten times more wildfires in Russian Arctic than a decade ago as ice melts and gives way to flame

But back to CA---in case anyone did not get the memo...access to enough water is not the reason these fires are so intense and hard to manage. To paraphrase a slogan...It's GW, stupid!

https://www.skepticalscience.com/trump- ... urned.html

Daniel Berlant, assistant deputy director of Cal Fire immediately noted that water isn’t firefighters’ problem:

"We have plenty of water to fight these wildfires, but let’s be clear: It’s our changing climate that is leading to more severe and destructive fires"

Climate change is making wildfires bigger
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