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Plantagenet wrote:Its really fascinating right now. But in the long run, demographics say the Muslims will win.

It looks like that at the moment.
Luckily europe has a history of violent behavior that might come in handy.
And peak oil and economic hardship might just help in triggering this.

Who knows, maybe auschwitz and dachau will be in operation again before long?

mousepad wrote:

Plantagenet wrote:Its really fascinating right now. But in the long run, demographics say the Muslims will win.

It looks like that at the moment.
Luckily europe has a history of violent behavior that might come in handy.
And peak oil and economic hardship might just help in triggering this.

Who knows, maybe auschwitz and dachau will be in operation again before long?

I hope you're not suggesting what it sounds like you are suggesting.....

That would be wrong.

There are lots of things Europe can do short of crazy ideas like that. Just reforming the wrong-headed EU asylum policies would be a good start. The high level of benefits paid to refugees in places in Germany and Sweden are more then people can earn in many third world countries. This just encourage more people in third world countries to abandon their homes and travel by any means necessary to Germany and Sweden, i.e. the extremely high benefits actually wind up inducing more people to become refugees.

mousepad wrote:

Plantagenet wrote:Its really fascinating right now. But in the long run, demographics say the Muslims will win.

If winning is only which group manages to get the biggest population, winning is really losing in the long run, with a finite planet and many groups populating like crazy, when overpopulation is arguably our single biggest problem as a species.

Besides, there's a LOT more to things like quality of life than having the largest population. The nordic countries are schooling pretty much everybody on that front in multiple ways re decent economics and a happy populace compared to other places.

Plantagenet wrote:I doubt that Russia will allow China to take its Siberian lands.

This will be a peaceful process.
While russian Slavic population dies out, Chinese will populate russian Far East.
Russians are already accepting them there to prevent outright depopulation.
So plenty of them are already there and more coming.
Russian Slavic women there prefer Chinese men as more promising partners.
Gradually ethnicity of population will change. It already does btw.
Loyalty of these peoples will also change. As time pass majority of population will gravitate towards Bejing.
Remnants of Slavic population around Moscow will be powerless to change it and as time pass their numbers will dwindle. They will drift to obscurity destroyed by alcoholism and abortions between many other ills.
China will take over without firing a shot.
Below article about depopulation of Russia:
https://www.thoughtco.com/population-de ... ia-1435266

Hispanics tends to be hard-working good citizens with cultural backgrounds that fit into the dominant judeo-christian culture of the US. A goodly number of Hispanics are now going on to university in the US.

Yes, at the end Hispanics will take over and establish Mexico or Nicaragua type of society in the US as well.
Yes, they are hard working and they will carry on - to the outcome as above.

Furthermore, the US has always attracted large numbers of highly educated immigrants from places like China, India, and Europe who add to the intellectual capital of the USA.

Hispanics will outbreed these.

All in all, I'd much rather be dealing with Hispanic immigrants we see in the US then the millions of Islamic immigrants that are entering the EU and failing to assimilate.

I would also prefer Hispanics over Arabs.

Outcast_Searcher wrote:Besides, there's a LOT more to things like quality of life than having the largest population. The nordic countries are schooling pretty much everybody on that front in multiple ways re decent economics and a happy populace compared to other places.

A lot have been changed in nordic countries recently.
Not for the better for sure.

mousepad wrote:

Plantagenet wrote:Its really fascinating right now. But in the long run, demographics say the Muslims will win.

It looks like that at the moment.
Luckily europe has a history of violent behavior that might come in handy.
And peak oil and economic hardship might just help in triggering this.

Who knows, maybe auschwitz and dachau will be in operation again before long?

Too much soy man.
Far too much.
Ain't gonna happen.
Testosterone levels of White race are about 45% of these 40 years ago.
Sperm counts have also fallen by more than 50%... with drastic drop of sperm mobility at the same time.
Average European man these days is barely fertile, physically weak, without military training and he often likes to wear skirt and paint his lips.
No, there won't be any revolution here.
European man cannot even enforce loyalty of his woman these days, let alone fight for the nation.
There is nothing to fight for any more. He won't even fight for his woman because usually she is a slut.
No point to bother.
Western civilization will be ditched.
Maybe something else will be built on its ruins (Islamic customs permitting) but current setup is going to be ditched.

Plantagenet wrote:
True enough. It all makes me wonder how much longer Europeans will put up with Europe.

The Brits have had enough of Europe, the Scots have had enough of the Brits, the Catalans and Basques want to get free of Spain, and the Muslims want to turn Europe into part of the Caliphate.

Its really fascinating right now. But in the long run, demographics say the Muslims will win.

Cheers!

Demographics is destiny.
You don't win the "game" if you forfeit by not showing up.

The irony of winning the booby prize of ruling the post-collapse world, starved of energy, extremely hot planet with environmental carrying capacity diminished, civilization technologically collapsed permanently, massively died-off population.

rangerone314 wrote:

Plantagenet wrote:
True enough. It all makes me wonder how much longer Europeans will put up with Europe.

The Brits have had enough of Europe, the Scots have had enough of the Brits, the Catalans and Basques want to get free of Spain, and the Muslims want to turn Europe into part of the Caliphate.

Its really fascinating right now. But in the long run, demographics say the Muslims will win.

Cheers!

Demographics is destiny.
You don't win the "game" if you forfeit by not showing up.

The irony of winning the booby prize of ruling the post-collapse world, starved of energy, extremely hot planet with environmental carrying capacity diminished, civilization technologically collapsed permanently, massively died-off population.

Exactly as Ranger said. All indications are the Last Man standing game is not going to end very pretty on this planet

Interesting how many American and European cuckolds want their wives and daughters raped by Muslims on this board. I wish I could say I was surprised. Islam, in all its various forms, it antithetical to freedom of anyone. Especially women.