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dohboi wrote:
Just because something exists does not mean that it represents the ultimate good.

We do not, in fact, live in the 'best of all possible worlds,' closer to the opposite. And it is arguable that it is exactly those who thought and think that we are inevitably in 'the best of all possible worlds' that have brought about and helped rationalize bringing about this probably worst of all possible worlds...

GS: Grandpa, why did you bequeath such a $#!+storm upon us?
GP: Hush, I have adapted my view and am at peace.

pstarr wrote:Will somebody explain how and why in this time of great climate peril . . . green vegetation covering the earth's surface has increased by %50

pstarr wrote:"We know that a high CO2 Earth ends up with a climate rather like Venus, via science"

We know that? No we don't. Because it never happened. Venus never had forests, humans, automobiles or hysterical AGW idiots . . . like we now have on earth

I have linked to the the Nature article and the associated NASA data. You might want to dig yourself out of your hole and try to fudge your way through some actual science. Indisputable proof that increased CO2 emissions and planetary vegetation have been in lockstep since 1983.

pstarr wrote:"We know that a high CO2 Earth ends up with a climate rather like Venus, via science"

We know that? No we don't. Because it never happened. Venus never had forests, humans, automobiles or hysterical AGW idiots . . . like we now have on earth

I have linked to the the Nature article and the associated NASA data. You might want to dig yourself out of your hole and try to fudge your way through some actual science. Indisputable proof that increased CO2 emissions and planetary vegetation have been in lockstep since 1983.

pstarr wrote:jedrider, that is not what the science tells us. It makes no predictions regarding global warming, only what has already happened.
...We know this.

Climate change is over. No, I’m not saying the climate will not change in the future, or that human influence on the climate is negligible. I mean simply that climate change is no longer a pre-eminent policy issue. All that remains is boilerplate rhetoric from the political class, frivolous nuisance lawsuits, and bureaucratic mandates on behalf of special-interest renewable-energy rent seekers.

Judged by deeds rather than words, most national governments are backing away from forced-marched decarbonization. You can date the arc of climate change as a policy priority from 1988, when highly publicized congressional hearings first elevated the issue, to 2018. President Trump’s ostentatious withdrawal from the Paris Agreement merely ratified a trend long becoming evident.

A good indicator of why climate change as an issue is over can be found early in the text of the Paris Agreement. The “nonbinding” pact declares that climate action must include concern for “gender equality, empowerment of women, and intergenerational equity” as well as “the importance for some of the concept of ‘climate justice.’ ” Another is Sarah Myhre’s address at the most recent meeting of the American Geophysical Union, in which she proclaimed that climate change cannot fully be addressed without also grappling with the misogyny and social injustice that have perpetuated the problem for decades.

The “nonbinding” pact declares that climate action must include concern for “gender equality, empowerment of women, and intergenerational equity” as well as “the importance for some of the concept of ‘climate justice.’

jedrider wrote:I always thought it was a mistake to include any notion of justice in a climate agreement. How foolish of all concerned.

The “nonbinding” pact declares that climate action must include concern for “gender equality, empowerment of women, and intergenerational equity” as well as “the importance for some of the concept of ‘climate justice.’

It would have been far simpler if they just said "You Die!" as reason enough. Far too late anyway.