ozcad wrote:I wonder when we might see activists (or purported activists) blowing up coal-fired generators to force replacement?
So far almost all the protests are nonviolent, with activists either protesting peacefully or doing sit-ins and being arrested to try to symbolically shut down the coal-fire power plant.
There is one group---the Climate Extinction activists in England ---- who have started doing more violent protests, but hopefully they will return to using non-violent protest tactics.
ozcad wrote:Currently, nothing changes unless TPTB can see a clear path to profit.
Once CC problems reach serious levels, every nation has an incentive to destroy neighbouring FF-burner plant.
Reductio ad absurdum: Imagine a chess-board where every square is at war with the other 63 squares.
I don't think war is necessary, especially since any war would just result in the release of even more hydrocarbons. Greta Thunberg has the right idea----what we really need is a binding UN treaty that mandates reductions in CO2 emissions. And we almost had it, too. The 2009 COP meeting in Copenhagen was all set set to ratify a treaty that had been drafted in Bali two years earlier that required mandatory CO2 emissions reductions. China and India had finally agreed to participate. It was great. All the world's leaders had gathered to sign this important treaty. But then Obama got in a stupid tiff with the Chinese after he barged into a meeting of non-aligned nations that the Chinese had called. Obama pushed his way onto the stage, showing up the Chinese, and took over the microphone like he was still a community organizer in Chicago taking over some little community group.
Needless to say the Chinese took offense. It may be trite, but China felt they had "lost face" when obama pushed them aside and took over their meeting. Obama tried to apologize and asked for a meeting with the Chinese leader, but the Chinese sent a low level assistant to an assistant to the meeting with the American President, thereby insulting him right back. The Obama vs. China spat went back and forth and the net result was the treaty that all the world's leaders had gather to sign wasn't actually signed. Subsequently Obama kowtowed to China and decided that the entire idea of mandatory CO2 reductions had to go, and the entire UN climate change treaty process was derailed, resulting in the phony Paris Accords in 2015, which actually called for INCREASES in CO2 emissions based on the VOLUNTARY pledges of the signatories and excludes China and India from having to do any CO2 reductions until the year 2030....and even then all the Chinese agreed to do was consider the issue.
We've already seen how well that worked.....global CO2 emissions have continued to go up every year since 2015, mainly due to rapid Co2 emissions increases occurring in both China and India---just like Obama agreed to.
The best thing to do now would be to get rid of Obama (we already did that) and get rid of Trump (chances are he'll lose in 2020) and get rid of the Paris Climate Accords. The world needs to go back to the Copenhagen treaty that Obama derailed, and get back to the idea of mandatory CO2 reductions as mandated by UN treaty. Its the only way.
Greta is right----the only way to reduce global CO2 emissions is to have the UN mandate global reductions in CO2 emissions.
Cheers!