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In comments first reported on Sunday by The Guardian and investigative journalism organization the Centre for Climate Reporting, al-Jaber, COP28 president and United Arab Emirates climate chief, suggested a fossil fuel phase out would not allow sustainable development “unless you want to take the world back into caves.”

Pops wrote:COP28 president sparks outcry after he claims there’s ‘no science’ behind fossil fuel phase out

In comments first reported on Sunday by The Guardian and investigative journalism organization the Centre for Climate Reporting, al-Jaber, COP28 president and United Arab Emirates climate chief, suggested a fossil fuel phase out would not allow sustainable development “unless you want to take the world back into caves.”

Last week, Sultan al Jaber, the president of the UN's COP28 climate summit, insisted that there is "no science" behind calls to phase-out fossil fuels, before getting in a hilarious eco-fight with three leading women from the conference over climate change and gender.

“You’re asking for a phase-out of fossil fuel," al-Jaber said.

"Please, help me, show me for a phase-out of fossil fuel that will allow for sustainable socio-economic development, unless you want to take the world back into caves.”

Responding to the remark, U.N. Environment Program Executive Director Inger Andersen said she lives in Kenya with solar power and clean electricity from the local utility.

“I'm not living in a cave," she added.

"We have made progress, but we still have a lot to do . . . including on fossil fuel language," said Jaber, adding "We should not allow anything to get between the fact we have all decided to keep our focus on our north star . . . of keeping 1.5[C] in reach."

The 1.5c target was set during the landmark 2015 Paris climate accord, as countries agreed to limit temperature increases to well below 2C and, ideally, 1.5C, as if that's even possible, and even if it were, assumes China and India would give a rat's ass and play ball in this completely academic exercise.

theluckycountry wrote:

That means [in this study] information-seeking is at least partially motivated by the desire to do right. By the same token, the finding also suggests choosing ignorance has value for people who want an excuse to be selfish.

theluckycountry wrote:Grown men, taking their leading from children. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes. People tend to seek consistency in their attitudes and perceptions, so this conflict causes unpleasant feelings of unease or discomfort.

The inconsistency between what people believe and how they behave motivates them to engage in actions that will help minimize feelings of discomfort. People attempt to relieve this tension in different ways, such as by rejecting, explaining away, or avoiding new information.