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Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Fri 03 May 2019, 07:31:49
by Newfie
It would seem the entertainment consists of hurling insults at one another.

Much more interesting that discussing possible future pathways.

Bartlett thought humanity’s biggest failure was not understanding the logarithmic function.

I think it’s our inability to let the past go (Balkanization) and turn to the future where we have the ability to do something positive.

What and when are the next round of climate negotiations?

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Fri 03 May 2019, 13:04:14
by Ibon
Newfie wrote:It would seem the entertainment consists of hurling insults at one another.



Funny how these discussions here at our resort among our guests when they rarely do happen are always civil.

If anyone comes to this site for much of anything beyond entertainment then one must then reflect on the social dificiencies one is sufferin in their organic social life that they come expecting something more.

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Fri 03 May 2019, 18:33:31
by Plantagenet
Newfie wrote:
What and when are the next round of climate negotiations?


The UNFCCC continues to hold meetings, with the next one scheduled for Bonn, Germany in 2019. I'm not sure what the focus of this upcoming meeting will be.

There isn't much for them to do now that they are locked into the Paris Accords except watch global CO2 emissions continue to rise and wait for global temperatures to exceed the limit of 2°C agreed upon in Paris in 2015.

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Cheers!

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Tue 07 May 2019, 19:41:38
by Newfie
Arctic pact scuttled by USA.

The United States has refused to sign an agreement on challenges in the Arctic due to discrepancies over climate change wording, diplomats said on Tuesday, jeopardizing cooperation in the polar region at the sharp edge of global warming.

With Arctic temperatures rising at twice the rate of the rest of the globe, the melting ice is creating potential new shipping lanes and has opened much of the world’s last untapped reserves of oil and gas to commercial exploitation .

A meeting of eight nations bordering the Arctic in Rovaniemi in Finland on Tuesday was supposed to frame a two-year agenda to balance the challenge of global warming with sustainable development of mineral wealth.



https://gcaptain.com/us-sinks-arctic-ac ... te-change/

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Wed 08 May 2019, 08:20:45
by asg70
Newfie wrote:Arctic pact scuttled by USA.


#ThanksTrump

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Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Wed 08 May 2019, 10:54:34
by Newfie
No not “Thanks Trump.”

He has given you the gift of being a convenient person to blame. Precious little has been done during Democratic Presidencies.

If you don’t like what he does then ask yourself what POSITIVE CONCRETE steps you have done to forward your position. Which of the 21 (22?) prospective Democrat candidates has a cohesive and intelligent suggested platform for dealing with Climate Change? (None) Writing letters bitching to congressmen doesn’t count, that’s just being a bitch.

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Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Wed 08 May 2019, 11:39:15
by dohboi
The world now subsidizes fossil fuels by $5.7 trillion dollars, according to the latest estimates published by the IMF. The biggest contributors are:
China—$1.4T
U.S.—$649B
Russia—$551B
EU—$239 billion
India—$209 billion


Here's the download link: imf.org/~/media/Files/… 1/

[ https://t.co/kHvJzD8I7q ]

https://twitter.com/tsrandall/status/11 ... 3835696128

- Since the language of the Paris Climate Accord was adopted, subsidies of fossil fuels have actually increased—by 11%.

Coal and oil accounted for 85% of the global $5.7 trillion subsidy bill. Renewable power, which isn’t included, gets just $140B. 2/


- The $5.7 trillion fossil fuel subsidy figure includes externalities that aren’t included in the price of fuel: environmental destruction, human illness from pollution, etc. Direct subsidies (pre-tax) are much narrower: $296 billion in 2017. 3/ pic.twitter.com/Y8Ny91XM6f
- The dip in direct fossil-fuel subsidies shown above is primarily a reflection of cheaper prices. Higher prices will bring back subsidies. There's also been subsidy reform in a few oil-producing nations (e.g. gasoline in Saudi Arabia now costs $2/gallon instead of $0.61) 4/
- An interesting note on externalities: It’s not just global warming. For coal, 69% of the cost society bears is from local pollution and the sickness that comes with it. For oil, 38% is local pollution and 36% is auto congestion/crashes 5/
(Thanks to sig at asif for this)

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Sun 23 Jun 2019, 15:11:21
by Newfie
I’m going a little off topic here but didn’t want to start a new thread of uncertain Provence.

In the news are 2 stories about climate change activism.

First is the story from Oregon where the Democrats want to pass cap and trade legislation, they have enough votes. To stop them the Republicans have fled into hiding to deny a quorum until after June 30 when the senate dissolves.

The other is of hundreds of climate protesters in Germany entering a open air coal mine presumably to shut it down and bring attention to the cause.

Will be interesting to see how these two story lines impact public thought, if at all.

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Sun 23 Jun 2019, 17:42:55
by onlooker
https://www.independent.co.uk/environme ... 70481.html


A  major study on how to limit global warming could be dropped from formal UN climate talks in Bonn this week after a “gentlemen’s agreement” was made under pressure from Saudi Arabia.

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Sun 23 Jun 2019, 18:05:05
by dissident
onlooker wrote:https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/un-climate-talks-in-bonn-saudi-arabia-15c-ipcc-rejects-a8970481.html


A  major study on how to limit global warming could be dropped from formal UN climate talks in Bonn this week after a “gentlemen’s agreement” was made under pressure from Saudi Arabia.


Not only is this toilet the premier exporter of terrorism and terrorist radicalization around the world, it is also succeeding at terrorism against climate science and global action on climate change. Meanwhile, western sheeple, fed lies by their fake stream media are looking for Russians under their beds.

The IPCC project is basically corrupted and releases low-ball estimates of climate change. Even though it entrains legitimate researchers to produce its reports, it, like the conductor of the orchestra, gets to spin the results and frame the scope of the research.

Re: International Climate Negotiations Pt. 3

Unread postPosted: Sun 23 Jun 2019, 18:27:58
by asg70
Newfie wrote:He has given you the gift of being a convenient person to blame.


Because he deserves it, as do his brethren GOP in Oregon.