vtsnowedin wrote: But yet there are constant calls to action even though those actions are known to be fruitless
Yea, I would say the call to action is delusional becuase the science is not honest. Yes, the science of the problem is honest but not the solution science. In nearly all cases the call to action is tech based not behavior. Degrowth of consumption and population is required. This means more poverty because the macro EROI is lower with renewables and other low carbon capture. The costs are higher to retrofit when diminishing returns of intermittency kicks in to the energy transition. The closer you get to 100% renewables the more nonlinear the price increase. We could learn to live with intermittency but that again means a type of degrowth which points to behavior. Behavior changes don't sell at the ballot box and the checkbook. More pannels or EV's will save the day is the hype and the ugly thought of less prosperity is diminished in the call to action. I have $20K invested in solar and batteries. I love my system but know differently about the hype.
vtsnowedin wrote:All possible solutions that avoid major climate change start with killing off two to three billion people by some none nuclear war means.
Population is a key variable as is consumption levels. The other issue is the carbon trap of it all. Economies of scale of large populations generates the kind of activity and specialization from education that allows the tech to do what it has done to our modern world. Reduce those and it is debatable if we can maintain the tech and the growing supply to power a transition and remain prosperous. Overshoot takes lots of prosperity to support. In any case renewables are dirty. You can't green up modern life much. It is naturally dirty becuase it does not scale to nature. The car culture is a significant problem but also the key trap variable becuase of delocalization of the local.
vtsnowedin wrote:In the mean time you might install some solar panels and switch to an electric vehicle charged from them if you calculate that that course might be a slight help and improve you and yours chances of surviving.
I have been declining in place with localism and low carbon capture. It only goes so far. I have the money and time but many people don't. Life is one big trap. I have bought myself some time and my mentality is adapted. I would say that the mentality part is huge becuase if decline or collpase hit I already have a meaning to fall back on. This does not mean the pain will not hurt, it just means I will be more accepting of it. The trap is macro so even though I am a green prepper I am still trapped becuase my community and species is trapped in the Anthropocene of decline.
vtsnowedin wrote:Other then that I know of no course that is more then eyewash and a waste of resources and money. (Yes I'm talking about the Green new deal).
Yea, the Green New Deal is a progressive joke from people who are unwilling to downsize and instead just want to do income transfer to their people for marginal benefit. That said a greatly reduced Green New Deal is in order. If a behavior change could be educated that would be good too. What I mean by this is there are so many bad behaviors promoted by the marketing of Capitalism. Do we need Nascar races? Do we need all the Hollywood? All the gadgets? There is tech changes that would be beneficial on the way down and lots of lifestyle changes on the fun side of life.