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Thanks for posting all the wet bulb temperature news dohboi.

I used to be skeptical that wbt was a serious concern. No more. In places like India and Australia the problem is here now.

Cheers!

My (dubious) pleasure!

It is indeed a hard concept to wrap one's mind around at first...like much in science, rather counter intuitive.

It will take global warming of ca. 7°C to start the wet bulb T deaths

thermogeddon-when-the-earth-gets-too-hot-for-humans

Fortunately that probably won't happen until sometime after 2100. But heatwaves will kill plenty even without reaching wet bulb death temps.

Cheers!

So death rate in the US is highest in January at 9.7 per 1000 and lowest in July at 8.0 per 1000, netting out 46,000 more deaths in Jan. 2015 than July 2015. The death rate goes up as the seasons get colder and down as the seasons get warmer. That might lead some people to think that global warming is going to lead to net less deaths as most of the warming is supposed to occur in the winter and not in the summer?

Now Down-under in good old Aus deaths are highest in August and lowest in February, what could explain that?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/provi ... 015dec.pdf

http://stat.data.abs.gov.au/Index.aspx? ... HOCCURENCE

Now Down-under in good old Aus deaths are highest in August and lowest in February, what could explain that?

Probably not temperature related
It doesnt get that cold and most people have air con

Heart disease is the main killer and that isnt weather related

Even before Wetbulb T Death, haven't you guys noticed how miserable it feels with high humidity? You feel when it's too cold and when it's too hot and, sometimes, you can feel too cold and too sweaty at the same time (the time I was in Tokyo)! Oh, I forgot, many Americans live with Air Conditioning most of the time under these conditions. I guess that's when the Seneca Cliff makes this important for first world countries. I like being outdoors, so I have a problem with this.

P, that link is very old now. We have had near 35 C wbt's already. We will certainly start seeing isolated places exceeding that deadly boundary within the next very few years, at least for short spans of time. We won't have to wait for 7 C above preindustrial global temps to start seeing wbt deaths.

And of course many, many elderly and those forced to work in near 35wbt conditions will be/have been dying before any actual 35Cwbt conditions are officially recorded.

Thousands of deaths are not even rounding errors in human population.

Sent from my summer retreat where the current 5:00pm temp is about 65°F.

7°C above average for many days if not weeks in Paris :
31°C to 32°C, with pollution, not very healthy. During day, unpleasant to stay outside. Hopefully, temperature go down to mid 20's°C at night, perfect time for my fan to inject at full power fresh air in house. Otherwise, temperature stay at 30 and more under the roof all night long(where's my bedroom).

IMHO cities are pretty bad for you health just in general.

Yeah, but especially LA right now.

Southern California; Los Angeles.

“Map of all the stations around LA currently reporting a temp of 115° (46.1°C) or higher
There's, um, quite a few of them #LAHeatwave”
https://twitter.com/gdimeweather/status ... 5044009986
Image below.

“For those that aren’t familiar, while most of us have our hottest average temperatures in July, SoCal usually has theirs in early September (I’m sure there’s a @Climatologist49 map for this). This sort of heat in July there is incredible. Natl wx this week has been something else”
https://twitter.com/mattlanza/status/10 ... 4221790211


“Infrared isn't working on police airships because the surroundings are giving off warmer heat signatures than people. At nighttime. In Los Angeles.”
https://twitter.com/bergopolis/status/1 ... 0153913344

(I guess it's a good time to commit crimes at night, there, though!? )

"(I guess it's a good time to commit crimes at night, there, though!? )"
Don't give em ideas D. Haha

Has any tropical country been wiped off the map by wet-blub temperatures?

“Tropical” may not be the right term. It call up images of beaches and islands. I have family in Columbia, they find the heat in Philly oppressive. They come from the mountains and have a near stable year round climate.

I think the Mid-East may be more of what you are considering. Except the hey are used to dealing with the heat (adapted) and the climate changes are nkt as great at the lower latitudes.

Higher latitudes are more subject to the vagaries of climate change and folks are not adapted to those temps. They don’t know how to cope.

Now out an Arab in North Dakota in winter and he may freeze while locals survive.

We have not yet entered the wet bulb temperature excess regime in the tropics. We have sporadic events, for example like local heat waves in India which results in hundreds of deaths (50 C + high RH). When we have this occurring over large areas and persistently we are entering the "end of the world" with millions of climate refugees. Thank your lucky charms that we are not living in such fun times just yet. But don't worry, they are coming.

We may have to wear suits like on the planet in Dune. I wonder if it would be possible to create wet bulb type of clothing that could cool you enough to prevent death? Like the Bedoins wear in the desert? Maybe a bit more high tech? Here are tee shirts that say they make you cooler:
https://arcticcool.com/?msclkid=078698c ... 20Clothing

Did you hear about the family of 3 who were killed by the heat while hiking in the Sierras last summer.

california-family-died-heat-dehydration-sierra-national-forest-hike-

Wetbulb T death is indeed here now.

Coming from Alaska I struggle when I I get into hot climates.

When I travel in tropical areas I usually take a small battery powered fan hooked up to small reservoir of water that emits a "nano" spray of ultra fine water particles.

The idea is that that micro drops of water evaporate off your face and cool you down.


Ahhhhhhh! So gooood!

Cheers!