Re: Genetically Modified Food Pt. 1 (merged)
Posted: Tue 14 Jul 2015, 00:54:16
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dissident wrote: We do not have GM crops for the sake of GM as in selective breeding and better characteristics through gene manipulation. We have GM crops designed to tolerate high levels of glyphosate. This is poison.
Monsanto and the industrial agriculture corporations can shove their "high" yields up their collective anus. These are "high" yields of nutritionally deficient and toxic chemical laden garbage. As has been posted in the autism thread, persistent use of glyphosate results in the doubling (and higher) of water use for growing these "high" yield crops. There is no techno miracle here, but a lame hack.
Notably, both Seneff and AutismOne appear to reject the accepted findings of science on the heretofore not fully understood causes of autism, namely in terms of genetics.
The article conflated a number of unrelated claims and beliefs about autism and its causes, jumping from pesticides to vaccines and back again in the course of its travels.
Shaved Monkey wrote:Withnail wrote:As long as it's labelled so I can choose not to buy it, I'm good.
If they have to label them or control the wind borne spread of pollen throughout the environment, as it crosses properties and infects organic farms and makes them lose their status. they would go bankrupt
But they have good lawyers and powerful friends
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pstarr wrote:"(like rice that doesn't require cooking). "
Monsanto also released an associated genetic modification for it target market audience, called the terminator gene, where the participating population is modified so the stomach itself doesn't digest anything at all. It was a bad bad marketing program. Lost the consumer base.
dohboi wrote:'like rice that doesn't require cooking'
Maybe they'll next genetically modify cows so they don't require slaughtering and cooking! Just wander by and take a nice juicy bite out of a cow 'flank' as it continues to placidly graze...
Experts at the Central Rice Research Institute (CRRI) in Orissa who have developed the grain were inspired by so-called soft rice, or komal saul, that grows in the north-east Indian state of Assam. Traditional recipes call for such rice to be soaked overnight in water, then eaten with mustard oil and onions.
Until now, these low-yielding grains have not grown outside the north-east, but the scientists at CRRI have managed to develop a hybrid of a traditional soft rice with a high-yielding variety of regular rice. The result has been called Aghunibora.
Kumol saul is a unique type of rice from Assam that can be eaten without cooking. It is rendered fluffy and edible by being soaked in water for a short time. The rice may be eaten with milk or curd, jaggery, yogurt after being immersed in warm water for just fifteen minutes or so.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:dohboi wrote:'like rice that doesn't require cooking'
Maybe they'll next genetically modify cows so they don't require slaughtering and cooking! Just wander by and take a nice juicy bite out of a cow 'flank' as it continues to placidly graze...
So are you implying I just made that point up? (There IS this thing called 'the internet' where such things can be searched on). A 5 second Google search on 'rice doesn't need cooking' yielded this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 88718.html
The article I remember reading on this was based on this rice. I was wrong thinking that it was a GM product. It is a standard hybridization, and as of 2009 was being tested.Experts at the Central Rice Research Institute (CRRI) in Orissa who have developed the grain were inspired by so-called soft rice, or komal saul, that grows in the north-east Indian state of Assam. Traditional recipes call for such rice to be soaked overnight in water, then eaten with mustard oil and onions.
Until now, these low-yielding grains have not grown outside the north-east, but the scientists at CRRI have managed to develop a hybrid of a traditional soft rice with a high-yielding variety of regular rice. The result has been called Aghunibora.
Unfortunately, searching on Aghunibora is only showing me 2009 references pointing back to the same organization. So apparently this hasn't gone very far. Starving people probably don't make a highly lucrative market.
So excuse me for getting a detail wrong, but I'm not just making stuff up.
Withnail wrote:Actually if you soak even normal rice for half an hour or so before cooking it cooks in no time. Lots less energy needed.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Withnail wrote:Actually if you soak even normal rice for half an hour or so before cooking it cooks in no time. Lots less energy needed.
Good tip. Being a bachelor who can barely run a microwave, I rarely stray from basic recipes. This makes sense though, as most of microwave cooking of rice is getting the water to be absorbed by the rice -- at least as far as I can tell.
Does this affect the texture much? That possibility and the extra time involved are the only reasonable objections to the soaking that come to mind.
dohboi wrote:'like rice that doesn't require cooking'
Maybe they'll next genetically modify cows so they don't require slaughtering and cooking! Just wander by and take a nice juicy bite out of a cow 'flank' as it continues to placidly graze...
Many Bt crops are “stacked,” meaning they contain a multiplicity of these Cry toxins. Their makers believe each of these Bt toxins is insect-specific and safe. However, there are multiple reasons to doubt both safety and specificity. One concern is that Bacillus thuringiensis is all but indistinguishable from the well known anthrax bacterium (Bacillus anthracis). Another reason is that Bt insecticides share structural similarities with ricin. Ricin is a famously dangerous plant toxin, a tiny amount of which was used to assassinate the Bulgarian writer and defector Georgi Markov in 1978.
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Two years ago, the GMO safety agency of the European Union (EFSA) discovered that both the CaMV promoter and the FMV promoter had wrongly been assumed by them (for almost 20 years) not to encode any proteins. In fact, the two promoters encode a large part of a small multifunctional viral protein that misdirects all normal gene expression and that also turns off a key plant defence against pathogens. EFSA tried to bury their discovery. Unfortunately for them, we spotted their findings in an obscure scientific journal. This revelation forced EFSA and other regulators to explain why they had overlooked the probability that consumers were eating an untested viral protein.
Keith_McClary wrote:Growing Doubt: a Scientist’s Experience of GMOsMany Bt crops are “stacked,” meaning they contain a multiplicity of these Cry toxins. Their makers believe each of these Bt toxins is insect-specific and safe. However, there are multiple reasons to doubt both safety and specificity. One concern is that Bacillus thuringiensis is all but indistinguishable from the well known anthrax bacterium (Bacillus anthracis). Another reason is that Bt insecticides share structural similarities with ricin. Ricin is a famously dangerous plant toxin, a tiny amount of which was used to assassinate the Bulgarian writer and defector Georgi Markov in 1978.
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Two years ago, the GMO safety agency of the European Union (EFSA) discovered that both the CaMV promoter and the FMV promoter had wrongly been assumed by them (for almost 20 years) not to encode any proteins. In fact, the two promoters encode a large part of a small multifunctional viral protein that misdirects all normal gene expression and that also turns off a key plant defence against pathogens. EFSA tried to bury their discovery. Unfortunately for them, we spotted their findings in an obscure scientific journal. This revelation forced EFSA and other regulators to explain why they had overlooked the probability that consumers were eating an untested viral protein.