Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
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Posted: Tue 19 May 2015, 11:36:12Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Tue 19 May 2015, 11:43:46The discussion is actually about who is dragging their feet. Policy makers willfully ignoring the problem equals no action.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Tue 19 May 2015, 11:53:11Lore wrote:The discussion is actually about who is dragging their feet. Policy makers willfully ignoring the problem equals no action.
Agreed, but at times those same policy makers succeed in blocking action, or even acknowledging a problem exists. There is no climate change in Florida or Wisconsin. The rest of us are F'd.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
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Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Thu 21 May 2015, 13:33:50You might as well have a MOOC about why people think we didn't land on the moon or the earth is 6,000 years old. It's a neverending battle.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Thu 21 May 2015, 20:23:32Well, an interesting article here, with a very appropriate title as well:
Destroying What Remains
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dahr-jamail/destroying-what-remains_b_7361170.html
Seems to me to be a rightwing obligation, to get closer to the rapture or whatever they are seeking.
Destroying What Remains
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dahr-jamail/destroying-what-remains_b_7361170.html
Seems to me to be a rightwing obligation, to get closer to the rapture or whatever they are seeking.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Thu 21 May 2015, 23:42:01As a card-carrying rightwinger, I can tell you what we seek is peace on earth, goodwill toward men.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Fri 22 May 2015, 00:22:06Yair. . .
Kmann You did forget to press the Sarc. button . . . no?
Cheers.
Kmann You did forget to press the Sarc. button . . . no?
Cheers.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Fri 22 May 2015, 01:31:54Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 01:03:22This pretty much says it all: https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/ ... png&w=1484
As usual, double click and pick 'view image' to get the whole picture.
As usual, double click and pick 'view image' to get the whole picture.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 05:03:53Great find Dohboi, yes that for sure says it all. 
Got to feel bad so much ignorance abounds. These people have truly been brainwashed. Just goes to show you just having a brain is not sufficient. One must learn to use it and use it critically.
Got to feel bad so much ignorance abounds. These people have truly been brainwashed. Just goes to show you just having a brain is not sufficient. One must learn to use it and use it critically.Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 08:10:17onlooker wrote:Great find Dohboi, yes that for sure says it all.
You are looking at it all wrong if you see that graph as everyone is ignorant. 38 percent of the hardest hard core Conservatives believe climate change will effect their lives and another 29 percent believe their will be effects in the future after they are themselves dead. This question is a bit deceptive because the older a conservative is the more hard core they tend to be so by the time you get to the hardest core you have a lot of elderly folks in the mix who do not expect to live another 20-50 years. All those elders who believe Climate Change will effect their children and grandchildren fall into that 20 percent.
You have to interpret political graphs about the future by age group, the most left are often the youngest while the most right are usually elderly as an average. The other factor is most voters tend more towards the middle than either extreme.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 09:32:12That is a great chart. Here is is smaller (using tinypic.com) because the important part is hidden:
What is striking is the "who's to blame" part.
Makes perfect sense and really it has nothing to do with who is stupid or who has the money but is totally explained by the label — "conservatives" by definition, do not like change, they do not want to think that change is necessary, they do not want to think that they have done anything that warrants change. Typically they think God is on their side and they are made in his image so how could anything be their/His fault?
All the ad homs are pointless, you are as apt to change a conservative's mind on the environment as you are on religion — to a conservative this is all a veil, just a pop quiz to see who gets the 72 virgins. And good portion of them believe the rapture will happen in their lifetime, whether the oceans rise a few inches means nothing.
I've been saying this from the beginning of the Great Climate Change Doom faction co-opting the environment forum here, you might as well try to shame "deniers" and "shills" into saying they don't believe in God
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What is striking is the "who's to blame" part.
Makes perfect sense and really it has nothing to do with who is stupid or who has the money but is totally explained by the label — "conservatives" by definition, do not like change, they do not want to think that change is necessary, they do not want to think that they have done anything that warrants change. Typically they think God is on their side and they are made in his image so how could anything be their/His fault?
All the ad homs are pointless, you are as apt to change a conservative's mind on the environment as you are on religion — to a conservative this is all a veil, just a pop quiz to see who gets the 72 virgins. And good portion of them believe the rapture will happen in their lifetime, whether the oceans rise a few inches means nothing.
I've been saying this from the beginning of the Great Climate Change Doom faction co-opting the environment forum here, you might as well try to shame "deniers" and "shills" into saying they don't believe in God
.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 10:06:26.
and not a comment on Margaret Thatcher being the leading figure on the danger of climate change !
....for shame , you guys are useless !
and not a comment on Margaret Thatcher being the leading figure on the danger of climate change !
....for shame , you guys are useless !
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 11:35:17Thanks for resizing that, Pops.
Except their actions and non-actions are in the process of bringing about some of the fastest ecological changes seen by the planet in hundreds of millions of years.
That's the kind of change I don't like, so I guess that makes me some kind of 'paleo-conservative'?
sparky, we're talking about modern US arch-conservatives, here. It's actually quite a recent thing even for US right-wing Repugs to be this uniformly anti-climate science.
And yes, Thatcher, trained as a chemist, understood full well the dire consequences of GW and the long-term devastating consequences to her beloved little island. (It was just the poor and needy that she threw under the bus!
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"conservatives" by definition, do not like change
Except their actions and non-actions are in the process of bringing about some of the fastest ecological changes seen by the planet in hundreds of millions of years.
That's the kind of change I don't like, so I guess that makes me some kind of 'paleo-conservative'?
sparky, we're talking about modern US arch-conservatives, here. It's actually quite a recent thing even for US right-wing Repugs to be this uniformly anti-climate science.
And yes, Thatcher, trained as a chemist, understood full well the dire consequences of GW and the long-term devastating consequences to her beloved little island. (It was just the poor and needy that she threw under the bus!
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Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 11:42:14Pops wrote:
I've been saying this from the beginning of the Great Climate Change Doom faction co-opting the environment forum here, you might as well try to shame "deniers" and "shills" into saying they don't believe in God
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We should also remember that those who surrender their reason to a patriarchal god secretly desire to have their bottoms spanked for bad behavior. What conservatives don't tell you is that they are the first ones who will welcome climate chaos as a chance to frame this as an opportunity at redemption to please father.
Re: Rightwingers Uniquely Oblivious about CC Science
Posted: Sat 23 May 2015, 17:46:00This also explains why I bristle at all of the heat Obama has gotten on his environmental record. Everything's relative and if you had an arch-conservative in the whitehouse then his or her actions would be 10x worse.