Why Civilization cannot and will not resume
Posted: Sat 06 Dec 2014, 03:55:27
Why Civilization cannot and will not resume:
I am posting this topic as we have already discussed greatly the drivers of a die-off and the likelihood of this occurring. I am curious as to what others see arising in it’s wake. I for one do not believe anything like the civilization we have can be preserved. First of all fossil fuels will be mostly exhausted, we need an abundant energy source to maintain this advanced civilization. Second the aftermath will be too tumultuous to retain any semblance of BAU, thirdly if war(s) break out too much devastation. But above all I think because the humans who make it through the bottleneck let’s say for arguments sake one billion will forsake civilization for something more akin to a Permaculture more simplified social organization as opposed to more advanced organization. So all signs point to our present civilization pretty much disappearing and surviving humans banding together hopefully retaining some technical and general wisdom and know how as they will certainly need it. It would be a complex transition with a wide range of possible best to worse case scenarios however, I am pessimistic because of the sorry state of the planet. Perhaps these remaining humans can come to settle an area relatively hospitable in terms of it’s food and water and be relatively uncontaminated. One caveat, nuclear waste disposal poses an especially dire and difficult challenge as of course our changing climate.
I am posting this topic as we have already discussed greatly the drivers of a die-off and the likelihood of this occurring. I am curious as to what others see arising in it’s wake. I for one do not believe anything like the civilization we have can be preserved. First of all fossil fuels will be mostly exhausted, we need an abundant energy source to maintain this advanced civilization. Second the aftermath will be too tumultuous to retain any semblance of BAU, thirdly if war(s) break out too much devastation. But above all I think because the humans who make it through the bottleneck let’s say for arguments sake one billion will forsake civilization for something more akin to a Permaculture more simplified social organization as opposed to more advanced organization. So all signs point to our present civilization pretty much disappearing and surviving humans banding together hopefully retaining some technical and general wisdom and know how as they will certainly need it. It would be a complex transition with a wide range of possible best to worse case scenarios however, I am pessimistic because of the sorry state of the planet. Perhaps these remaining humans can come to settle an area relatively hospitable in terms of it’s food and water and be relatively uncontaminated. One caveat, nuclear waste disposal poses an especially dire and difficult challenge as of course our changing climate.