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Russia is just such a peace loving nation. Just give em the benefit of the doubt. hahahahah

There is no doubt in this particular situation, my militant friend. This is not about Russia's loving peace or eating children. This is about Saakashvili starting a war, which is a fact beyond doubt.

ir290762 wrote:There is no doubt in this particular situation, my militant friend. This is not about Russia's loving peace or eating children. This is about Saakashvili starting a war, which is a fact beyond doubt.

It's good then that the 90k Russian troops were just across to border to come in and start peacekeeping operations.

TonisD wrote:

ir290762 wrote:There is no doubt in this particular situation, my militant friend. This is not about Russia's loving peace or eating children. This is about Saakashvili starting a war, which is a fact beyond doubt.

It's good then that the 90k Russian troops were just across to border to come in and start peacekeeping operations.

Kinda makes one wonder then why Saakashvili did not blow the tunnel.

To TonisD: 5 batallions of the 58th army make some 9000, not 90K.

To Roccland: This is my question too. Georgians tried to send special groups to blow the Rocka tunnel 10th, but it was already too late. Maybe the chap did not expect such a response.

Look, unless you have been in those situations, you cannot know the terror that those soldiers either did themselves or stood byand watched the Ost's do. Thosewomen and children NEVER recover from that.

THAT is diff than the army making a statement for theintrusion etc. Russia wants them back and that is that and you will see that played out as NO ONE can stop them short of nuclear war. Obama will pacify them with foreign aid etc. and just let it go. And what else can you do. THEY KNOW THAT> How safe a deal is that.

Joe, are we on the same planet? The death toll of around 2000 refers to Ossetians, not Georgians. 30000 misplaced refers also to Ossetians, not Georgians.

Georgians, not Ossetians used Grad ML against civil population.

ir290762 wrote:To TonisD: 5 batallions of the 58th army make some 9000, not 90K.
To Roccland: This is my question too. Georgians tried to send special groups to blow the Rocka tunnel 10th, but it was already too late. Maybe the chap did not expect such a response.

Yeah - one would think a US backed country would know long before hand 90K troops were amassing on the other side of the hill.

Heck - we just learned this week a bic lighter brought down building 7. I would guess a couple road flares would have done the trick.

How touching to see NATO concern for Georgia's oil infrastructure. You clowns destroyed Panchevo near Belgrade in 1999 helping to contaminate the Danube with assorted toxins. When you start applying the standards you claim to espouse to yourselves you may have some chance for respect, until such time you are nothing but a bunch of hypocrite liars and war criminal supporters.

dissident wrote: hypocrite liars and war criminal supporters....

Russia lied about not going beyond the borders of South Ossetia, and they lied when they committed to retreat in the cease-fire treaty. Their criminal invasion of Georgia and continued occupation of Georgia and ethnic cleansing of Georgians and continued attacks and murders of Georgian civilians makes them liable to war crimes prosecutions.

Plantagenet wrote:

dissident wrote: hypocrite liars and war criminal supporters....

Russia lied about not going beyond the borders of South Ossetia, and they lied when they committed to retreat in the cease-fire treaty. Their criminal invasion of Georgia and continued occupation of Georgia and ethnic cleansing of Georgians and continued attacks and murders of Georgian civilians makes them liable to war crimes prosecutions.

Plantagenet regurgitates the Bush Administration's talking points nicely, doesn't he?

joelcolorado wrote:Russia is just such a peace loving nation. Just give em the benefit of the doubt. hahahahah

After the World War-2 USA bombed:
1 China (1945)
2 Korea (1950)
3 China (1950)
4 Guatemala (1954)
5 Indonesia (1958)
6 (1959-1960)
7 Guatemala (1960)
8 Kongo (1964)
9 Peru (1965)
10 Laos (1964)
11 Vietnam (1961)
12 Cambodia (1969)
13 Guatemala (1967)
14 Granada (1983)
15 Lebanon (1984)
16 Libya (1986)
17 El Salvador (1980)
18 Nicaragua (1980s)
19 Panama (1989)
20 Iraq (1991-1999)
21 Sudan (1998)
22 Afghanistan (1998)
23 Yugoslavia (1999)
24 Afghanistan (2001)
25 Iraq (2003)

All the while Soviet Russia occupied half of Europe, moved in their own people to annexed countries to supress local populace with brute numbers and made sure to roll over people with tanks to get the point across. Oh, I forgot cutting people's heads off with shovels, sorry.

Go Team Russia!

evgeny wrote:

joelcolorado wrote:Russia is just such a peace loving nation. Just give em the benefit of the doubt. hahahahah

After the World War-2 USA bombed:
1 China (1945) 2 Korea (1950) 3 China (1950) -snip-
24 Afghanistan (2001) 25 Iraq (2003)

Well there is an upside...right?

Plantagenet wrote:

dissident wrote: hypocrite liars and war criminal supporters....

Russia lied about not going beyond the borders of South Ossetia, and they lied when they committed to retreat in the cease-fire treaty. Their criminal invasion of Georgia and continued occupation of Georgia and ethnic cleansing of Georgians and continued attacks and murders of Georgian civilians makes them liable to war crimes prosecutions.

Today in destroyed as a result of conducting operations capital of South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, there has arrived the commissioner of the Council of Europe under human rights Thomas Hammarberg. The purpose of its visit: on a place to familiarise with conditions which have developed as a result of intrusion of the Georgian armies on territory of unrecognized republic. Alan Pliev has informed on it замглавы the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of South Ossetia. Seen has made upon Hammarberga indelible impression:" That here has occurred two weeks ago, should not repeat. This insult of mankind. The insult of the human rights ", - was declared by him. Having returned home, Hammarberg promises to prepare the report," which will be published that all Europe has understood that has occurred and that it is necessary to make to heal a wound of war and to rectify the situation which has developed as a result of war ". On end of visit of Hammarberg will hold a meeting with fulfilling duties of the chairman of the government of republic Boris Chochievym to familiarise with plans on restoration of a peace life in the region which has suffered from war.

In Poland a holiday: 10 rockets to them were promised by Americans, and one rocket by Russian.
Poland is offended to Russia: Americans promised them 10 rockets, and Russian only one. Assurances of the Russian Joint Staff that the rocket will be big, Poles are not satisfied also with them accuse the Kremlin of avarice.

The president George Bush has demanded to return status quo to the Georgian-Osset conflict. Anybody in the West did not expect that Bush will support revival of the USSR

The idea of the White House is as follows. There is historical territory of the so-called Middle East. But you can consider geographical area extending from the Caspian Sea to the 'rogoobraznogo' projection of Africa - the so-called 'Greater Middle East', where the focus incredible natural wealth, oil and gas fields. In order to successfully control a small contingent of such a large territory, it is necessary to destroy the great state and divide people in the warring factions, which will be engaged not to expel the invaders, and internecine wars. The establishment of such micro-and there is a redivision of 'Greater Middle East'. After Iraq the same fate should postignut Iran, then Saudi Arabia and Egypt - the current allies and tomorrow's victims.

Plantagenet wrote:Russia lied about not going beyond the borders of South Ossetia, and they lied when they committed to retreat in the cease-fire treaty. Their criminal invasion of Georgia and continued occupation of Georgia and ethnic cleansing of Georgians and continued attacks and murders of Georgian civilians makes them liable to war crimes prosecutions.

Talk about lies and war crimes.
"The US lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and they lied about links between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Their criminal invasion of Iraq and continued occupation of Iraq and ethnic cleansing of Iraqis and continued attacks and murders of Iraqi civilians makes them liable to war crimes prosecutions."

The Bush administration and it's brainwashed minions are making it more clear than ever what a bunch of liars and hypocrites they are.

Virtual Truth Commission: Telling the Truth for a Better America link

ir290762 wrote:The death toll of around 2000 refers to Ossetians, not Georgians. 30000 misplaced refers also to Ossetians, not Georgians.

What proof exists that 2000 Ossetians were killed by Georgian forces during the raid of Tskhinvali? What happened to all the bodies? Were they carted off by Russian forces?