SeaGypsy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNNhtC-Jxk&fbclid=IwAR1H79DUpPwlfr_R7ziPRJPTQBaRvzw4qNmmS_cdfPJXsibAF85O0HCB5ro&app=desktop
Cog wrote:SeaGypsy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNNhtC-Jxk&fbclid=IwAR1H79DUpPwlfr_R7ziPRJPTQBaRvzw4qNmmS_cdfPJXsibAF85O0HCB5ro&app=desktop
So you give a link to a 2 hour video with no explanation of what is in it? Gee thanks. I'll pass.
SeaGypsy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNNhtC-Jxk&fbclid=IwAR1H79DUpPwlfr_R7ziPRJPTQBaRvzw4qNmmS_cdfPJXsibAF85O0HCB5ro&app=desktop
dissident wrote:SeaGypsy wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNNhtC-Jxk&fbclid=IwAR1H79DUpPwlfr_R7ziPRJPTQBaRvzw4qNmmS_cdfPJXsibAF85O0HCB5ro&app=desktop
Not this tinfoil hat retardation. Anyone claiming this is a pure panic is a f*cking degenerate. If it was just a panic, there would not be a flood of real cases in ICUs which are breaking the system. In case that is not clear, there are actual victims (of all ages not as these retards claim just old people) who are on respirators for over a month and there are so many of them that systems all over the world can't handle it. Doctors in Italy and other places are choosing who lives and dies.
It does not matter that most people do not get sick enough to be in ICU and die. Claiming that this is just like the regular flu is worthy of time in a padded room.
jedrider wrote:Don't bother watching video. I don't subscribe to any video that's screaming at me. Usually, they're trying to brainwash you when they do that.
SeaGypsy wrote:You wouldn't consider that you may already be thoroughly brainwashed? Isn't your mighty brain capable of filtering?
Cog wrote:So the OP posts a link to a 2 hr video with no explanation of what is in it and then calls people retarded because the won't watch it. SeaGypsy is batting 1.000.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Cog wrote:So the OP posts a link to a 2 hr video with no explanation of what is in it and then calls people retarded because the won't watch it. SeaGypsy is batting 1.000.
I watched about 7 minutes from the recommended 1:10 point. That was a waste of 7 minutes.
As dissident points out, given the real world numbers we have, this sure looks like tinfoil, supported mostly by histrionics.
If we only have 20K US deaths from this, I'll be more than HAPPY to retract this opinion. But the way the numbers are growing, we'll be WELL beyond that in a couple of weeks unless things change radically.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:
If we only have 20K US deaths from this, I'll be more than HAPPY to retract this opinion. But the way the numbers are growing, we'll be WELL beyond that in a couple of weeks unless things change radically.
Ibon wrote:Outcast_Searcher wrote:
If we only have 20K US deaths from this, I'll be more than HAPPY to retract this opinion. But the way the numbers are growing, we'll be WELL beyond that in a couple of weeks unless things change radically.
We may not exceed 20k deaths in the USA if we follow the same pattern as Italy and many other countries who waited a bit long to do the lockdown and in addition if we rally with equipping hospitals in the short term with the ventilators and equipment they need.
Just because we have this short term horrific situation of critically ill exceeding hospital infrastructure does not mean we are going to explode exponentially with the number of dead outside the range of other countries with a similar situation.
Italy has 60 million total population and 12,000 deaths with an average daily death rate since 10 days of between 700-900 deaths per day due to Covid19. Now of those 12,000 deaths how many were because of just Covid19 and how many where because of Covid19 plus lack of ventilators. And of course how many would have died anyway because many had pretty serious additional morbidity.
USA has 5 times the total population of Italy so applying Italy's total deaths to the US popualtion you get roughly 60,000 deaths. If we can get ventilators distributed to critical areas and if we can set up the necesarry ICU units the total death toll in the USA may be well under 60,000.
Shaved Monkey wrote:US is saying 1 in 4 cases show no symptoms
China knew this but basically ignored them in the count as they saw them as insignificant and say as many as 50+% were showing no symptoms and werent counted
Chinese researchers estimate that 59% of those who contracted the virus had mild or no symptoms.
Documents seen by the South China Morning Post reportedly showed more than 40,000 asymptomatic patients that would not have been included in China’s total number of infections of more than 80,000.
China just saw the first spike in cases and deaths today when they started re opening and will now do more to try and isolate the ones with no symptoms
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... t-carriers
As a result, the CDC was now “aggressively reviewing” its recommendations on use of face masks, potentially extending their use based on the assumption that more people in “high transmission zones” were already infected but without symptoms.
US healthcare workers are already facing acute shortages of personal protective equipment, and Dr Anthony Fauci, the head of Donald Trump’s coronavirus task force, warned on Tuesday that, although widening use of masks was being considered, it must not come at a cost to frontline health workers.
Trump advised the public on Tuesday to “use a scarf if you want ... rather than going out and getting a mask.”
Shaved Monkey wrote:Theres a world wide shortage of masks
Australia doesnt have enough most of our medical supplies were shipped to Wuhan in the early days
Hand sanitiser, masks, hazmat suit, thermometers all bought wholesale by 2 Chinese Construction firms based in Australia and shipped to China they did the same in Canada and Turkey and other countries they were based in
https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese ... 54du8.html
Wow, if it's over 50% show no symptoms, little wonder it's so easily spread with no clue about the danger.
And, wow, THAT DIDN'T TAKE LONG to see another wave cranking up in China when they loosened restrictions! Last week I read about them getting things cranked up re factories, etc. and this week -- oops, another wave starting.
This also seems to kind of show that all the arm waving histrionics of how China is lying about everything and suppressing any bad news re COVID-19 cases is simply false.
So great. The benefit from regular folks wearing masks, especially in crowded places like the grocery store suddenly looks much more significant. But of course, there ARE no N95 grade masks from REPUTABLE makers for the American public.
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