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Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 15:32:12
by Plantagenet
asg70 wrote: Last time I checked, unions are dead and we're living in a corporatocracy.


Check again. The situation with unions is more complex then that.

The corporatocracy has mostly succeeded in knocking down unions in the private sector, but they're thriving in the public sector. We have three active unions just here at my university ---one for university faculty, one for staff, and one for faculty at the affiliated community college. Most other public employees in the state of Alaska are represented by unions as well, including teachers, police, fire, ferry workers, and all the government bureaucrats as well.

And some of the largest corporate employers in my state are unionized as well. Small companies aren't unionized, but some big ones are unionized.

Cheers!

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Unions........they still are very important in Alaska

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 17:45:41
by Tanada
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Here is a recommendation for you! Declare that the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico together are the 51st state!

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 19:13:16
by Newfie
^ Works for me!

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 21:24:51
by Cog
2 more Democrat senators. No thanks.

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Thu 18 Jul 2019, 01:50:29
by careinke
Cog wrote:2 more Democrat senators. No thanks.


But the flag looks cool.

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Thu 18 Jul 2019, 07:55:38
by Ibon
There is this graph about Congress having a 20% approval rating but a 97% reelection rate.
Term limits and a strict prohibtion of any congressmen taking a corporate lobby position.

The reason though that all of our wonderful ideas here on this thread will never be inacted is that the
very same congressmen who would have to approve any of these ideas are the very same compromised bastards in the first place.

Good luck with that.

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Fri 19 Jul 2019, 05:17:00
by Newfie
Ibon,

That made me laugh. I’ve heard it before, everyone thinks all Congress critters are corrupt, except his.

Here’s another factoid that peers into our souls.

Years ago Men’s Health Magazine did a survey and found 93% of American men rate themselves as above average drivers.

All farts stink, except mine. My shit don’t stink!

LOL, humanity, gotta love it.

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2019, 07:06:09
by Newfie
I’ve a rant stuck in my craw this morning.

The bottom line is in The USA we are great for coming up with things YOU should do to fix MY problem. We also love to find things to shame others and to have emotional outbursts of righteous outrage. Doesn’t work in marriages, won’t work in our culture.

It comes from the recent mass shootings and the knee jerk call for more gun control if not outright bans.

As Neil gets Grasse Tyson pointed out that the mass shootings are small potatoes.

In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…

500 to Medical errors
300 to the Flu
250 to Suicide
200 to Car Accidents
40 to Homicide via Handgun

Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.


Something like 75% of guns used in felonies have been acquired illegally. Obviously passing more restrictive legislation won’t help, we can’t enforce the laws we have. Look at “the war on drugs”, we have draconian Federal laws in pot possession, these laws don’t help.

Anyone who has had construction job site safety training as head “there are no “accidents” only “mistakes””. That is the message of Personal Responsibility. It is in the construction industry because injuries and deaths affect their workers comp and liability coverage. It gets taken seriously because it costs serious money.

How can we have 250 medical deaths per day? Where is the outrage? Where is the media coverage? My answer is because they happen one at a time, they don’t come out until long after the event, there are no piles of flowers and candle light vigils, there is nothing for media to leverage.

Right now we ban all sorts of narcotic drugs, but our Drs., at least some, are pushing Oxycodin and other addictive drugs. How can this be? Where is their personal liability? This will push for black market sources like amphetamines. Heroine and cocaine are outright illegal but we can’t stop their import. Clearly bans don’t work, the profit margin is too high, even our medical professions succumb.

Humans desire our pleasure centers to be excited, once we find a way to excite them we will do almost anything to repeat that feeling. It’s obvious that drugs can do the trick, but also religion. Get a good tent meeting going and you’ve got a lot of excited receptors running around. Same thing with mass media, they are selling the feel good drug. They give us something, some idea, we can get emotional about, something we can force others to do, so we can get our dopamine high.

The poster child for this should be the abortion argument with the gun argument running a close second. In both cases passions run high on both sides. Each side calls upon some higher power to validate their fervor. What both sides have in common is the high they get from the fight, from attempting to grind down the “other”.

To quell gun violence in the USA, where the vast majority of deaths is drug related in the disadvantaged communities, you need to need to address that we have a permanent under class. That underclass has problems with unwanted/inappropriate pregnancies, poor education, unemployment, drug use, gangs and violence. Want to fix gun violence? Start there. But perhaps even that is not the root cause, the best question. Why is this underclass so persistent in the USA?

And that answer MAY be that we really don’t want to fix anything. We want the fight, the trauma, the rallies, protests, the piles of flowers, the vigils. They give us a reason to get wound up, to get excited, to feel so much superior to “those others”. And maybe that explains Hillary/Donald and not only our political mess but our whole culture. It’s the marital fight scene in “Whos Afraid of Virginia Wolf”, we want that big fucking blow out argument, that over the top screaming match. The rush of righteous indignation. The high, the dopamine, its just soooo good.

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2019, 12:49:54
by Outcast_Searcher
Tanada wrote:Image

Here is a recommendation for you! Declare that the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico together are the 51st state!

Does that mean the citizens start paying US income taxes, and paying for things like US provided infrastructue repair? Because if it does, it's long past when this should have happened.

But I suppose the current system where they vote to refuse to become a state, don't pay US income taxes, and then have liberals claim the US is evil when there are finite funds to pay for infrastructure repair is far more fashionable, re modern thinking, where government provides something for nothing, and all problems are magically solved. /s

Re: Fixing America

Unread postPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2019, 11:12:50
by Tanada
Outcast_Searcher wrote:
Tanada wrote:Image

Here is a recommendation for you! Declare that the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico together are the 51st state!

Does that mean the citizens start paying US income taxes, and paying for things like US provided infrastructue repair? Because if it does, it's long past when this should have happened.

But I suppose the current system where they vote to refuse to become a state, don't pay US income taxes, and then have liberals claim the US is evil when there are finite funds to pay for infrastructure repair is far more fashionable, re modern thinking, where government provides something for nothing, and all problems are magically solved. /s


Puerto Rico has held two referendums in the last decade both of which voted to pursue statehood. In the second referendum the 'anti- side knew they would lose the popular vote so they 'protested ' by 'not participating ' and then claim the vote was invalid because they did not choose to vote.

Unfortunately neither the Republican nor Democratic majority congresses of the last decade have done anything to define what steps Puerto Rico must take to be accepted as a state. The way our system works Congress has to lay out the requirements, then the prospective state has to meet those conditions. In the past this often meant a minimum population and an acceptable constitution. For example Utah was denied statehood until they created a constitution outlawing Polygamy.

Until Congress acts there is little point in Puerto Rico voting yet again, after all Congress could set up conditions that would make statehood very unattractive to the population like English is the only official language on all government documents. Right now Puerto Rico has a bilingual document rule like Canadian federal documents have.