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The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Mon 11 Mar 2019, 05:41:49

The Dems Will Lose the House in 2020
Anti-Semitism, socialism, and giving the vote to illegal immigrants is a losing agenda.
by DAVID CATRON, March 11, 2019, 12:04 AM

If you find it difficult to grasp how a handful of leftwing extremists managed to win last week’s battle with the nominal leadership of the Democratic Party over a House resolution originally written to condemn anti-Semitism, Margaret Thatcher explained the phenomenon four decades ago: “The one thing about leftwing politicians is that they are always fanatical. They never let go. It’s their religion.” She was describing how the Labour Party had been destroyed from within by a small minority of radicals. Thatcher eventually exploited this process, led the Conservative Party to victory over Labour, and became Prime Minister for eleven years.

The Republicans will deliver a similarly humiliating defeat to House Democrats in 2020 if its alleged leaders fail to rein in their own cadre of fanatical leftists, the core of which consists of recently elected social justice warriors Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley, Rohit Khanna, Raul Grijalva, and Pramila Jayapal. But theinternecine fight that preceded the cowardly revision of the anti-Semitism resolution into a denunciation of generic bigotry suggests that Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer may not hold enough sway over their own caucus to prevent it from self-destructing.

Before their epic defeat in 1994, the Democrats held the House majority for no fewer than four decades. Yet, after 12 years in the wilderness, they clearly had learned nothing. After finally winning it back again in 2006, their irresponsible antics condemned them to the minority after only four years. If they pursue their current agenda for the next 18 months, they will be in the minority again after only two years. Not only can they not muster a majority to condemn anti-Semitism, their most visible members are unabashedly embracing socialism, and the first piece of major legislation, H.R.1, literally gives illegal immigrants the vote.

The Democrat majority jammed that bill, ironically titled “For the People Act of 2019,” through last Friday. At a time when the voters say immigration is the most important issue facing the nation, this pernicious bill actually loosens restrictions on voting by illegal aliens. The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996(theoretically) prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections, but H.R.1 permits them to vote in local contests such as school board elections. The GOP attempted to amend the bill so that only U.S. citizens can vote. The Democrats rejected this, of course, as Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) tweeted:

Today I offered a motion to recommit #HR1 reaffirming that only US citizens should have the right to vote. Dems rejected it. Next time you go to the ballot box, keep that in mind. The future of their party is in cities like San Fran, where illegals can vote. Let that sink in.

It goes without saying that H.R.1 is a classic Democrat power grab that attempts to usurp the authority of the states to regulate the voter registration process. It would vitiate the accuracy of registration rolls by automatically registering anyone who acquires a driver’s license, prevent election officials from verifying voter eligibility, and render state voter ID laws null and void. H.R.1 also takes the power to draw congressional districts away from the states, and requires inclusion of illegal aliens in all redistricting plans. Moreover, it violates the 1st Amendment so brazenly that even the American Civil Liberties Union bestirred itself:

The American Civil Liberties Union, on behalf of its 3 million members, supporters and activists, opposes H.R.1.… We strongly urge the Rules Committee to allow floor amendments that would mitigate our concerns with the provisions that unconstitutionally infringe the freedoms of speech and association.

Having thus used H.R.1 to unconstitutionally seize control over our elections, and presumably using that power to create a permanent majority in Congress as well as a series of compliant presidents, then the Democrats would get down to implementing their socialist agenda in earnest. First on the list will, of course, be the single-payer health care system for which they have yearned for so long. Dubbed “Medicare for All,” it will eliminate all private and employer health plans, and come with an annual price tag of $3.3 trillion. It will allegedly save us money pursuant to “lower administrative costs.” Yet even the Washington Post confesses:

The public piece of the American health-care system has not proven itself to be particularly cost-efficient. On a per capita basis, U.S. government health programs alone spend more than Canada, Australia, France and Britain… expanding Medicare to all would not automatically result in a radically more efficient health-care system.

Not coincidentally the latest version of this pie-in-the-sky plan was introduced in late February by one of the above-named Social Justice Warriors, Pramila Jayapal. It boasts 100 Democrat co-sponsors, and a number of Democratic presidential candidates have embraced the plan, including Senators Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren. The only Democrat who has shown reticence about a full-throated endorsement is Amy Klobuchar, who describes Medicare for All as an “aspiration” rather than an add-water-and-stir cure for what ails U.S. health care. This is also how she talks about the absurd “Green New Deal.”

This brings us back to our six Social Justice Warriors. The Green New Deal is not, as most people seem to think, a plan conceived by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her staff to save the planet. It is, in fact, a program concocted by the Justice Democrats, the main PAC that supported the divine AOC and the other five SJWs listed above. One of its founders was none other than Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC’s chief of staff, who is facing scrutiny by the Federal Election Commission pursuant to a lot of “dark money” that has been sloshing around between the Justice Democrats PAC and a Chakrabarti-controlled LLC called Brand New Congress.

Republicans will welcome confirmation that AOC et al., who have been so vocal about the political influence of “the Jewish lobby,” are just a new generation of Democrat grifters. That revelation will be considerably less satisfying to Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the party’s leadership. In 2020 the GOP will target 50 to 60 seats held by Democrats in purple districts they narrowly won during the last two cycles. Most of those seats will flip after AOC and her fellow travelers drag the party to the far left. The voters will associate the Democrats with anti-Semitism, socialism, and illegal immigration, and they will lose the House majority again.


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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 20 Mar 2019, 14:42:26

There was a blue wave sweeping the Ds into power in the House in 2018. Why did this happen? Every D ran against Trump.

All the Ds have to do is nationalize the election and run against Trump again and they will do very well in 2020.

My prediction is the Ds will pick up a couple more house seats but do really well and take over the Senate. This will give president Beano a clear path to enact the D agenda of reparations for black people, stopping cirucmcision, packing the SUpreme Court with Ds, doing away with the electoral college, ramping up anti-semitism in the US and raising taxes.

Only then will the pendulum start back the other way and give Rs a chance to retake the house and Senate in 2022.

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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 22 Mar 2019, 15:48:11

Plantagenet wrote:There was a blue wave sweeping the Ds into power in the House in 2018. Why did this happen? Every D ran against Trump.

All the Ds have to do is nationalize the election and run against Trump again and they will do very well in 2020.

My prediction is the Ds will pick up a couple more house seats but do really well and take over the Senate. This will give president Beano a clear path to enact the D agenda of reparations for black people, stopping cirucmcision, packing the SUpreme Court with Ds, doing away with the electoral college, ramping up anti-semitism in the US and raising taxes.

Only then will the pendulum start back the other way and give Rs a chance to retake the house and Senate in 2022.

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I have to disagree with your 'blue wave' assessment. It is exceedingly rare for the party of the President to hold or gain seats in the mid term elections in the HOR. Need I point out as has been done so many times already that President Obama lost more seats in both 2010 and 2016 mid term elections than President Trump lost in 2018? Need I also point out that nearly every seat gained by the D's in 2018 was in a heavily Blue state that absolutely loathes President Trump?

That being the case 'nationalizing' Trump hate is a non-starter because the middle of the country is doing better economically now than we have since before 9-11-2001.

Getting rid of the Electoral College is also an amendment issue which is a tough sell. Sure the true blue states can all make their mutual suicide pact to declare all their electors must vote for the winner of the popular vote, but in almost all cases the winner of the popular vote in those states is going to be a D who was going to get all those votes anyhow. This 'pact' is nothing but window dressing to appease the folks who just do not understand how the system works.

In the event that the Electoral College does get 'done away with' somehow what that really means is you just nationalized the election. Both candidates will be forced to campaign is 'enemy territory' to rack up more votes in the popular count even if they know they are going to lose the state. When in the last 20 years has an R made a serious effort to campaign in California or a D to campaign in Texas? They do not bother because those electoral votes are considered a lock for the opposite party. Switch from electoral college to straight popular vote and all that changes. If Trump had campaigned in California and Hillary had campaigned in Texas would either have swung the state in their favor? I think that would be unlikely in the extreme. However if they had campaigned in those states they would have almost certainly created a bump in the number of votes they received even while losing.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 22 Mar 2019, 16:08:24

Tanada wrote:In the event that the Electoral College does get 'done away with' somehow what that really means is you just nationalized the election. Both candidates will be forced to campaign is 'enemy territory' to rack up more votes in the popular count even if they know they are going to lose the state. When in the last 20 years has an R made a serious effort to campaign in California or a D to campaign in Texas? They do not bother because those electoral votes are considered a lock for the opposite party. Switch from electoral college to straight popular vote and all that changes. If Trump had campaigned in California and Hillary had campaigned in Texas would either have swung the state in their favor? I think that would be unlikely in the extreme. However if they had campaigned in those states they would have almost certainly created a bump in the number of votes they received even while losing.


Is there any American institution that the Ds don't hate? If they succeed in packing the Supreme Court with Ds and doing away with the electoral college and moving the US away from capitalism and towards socialism, the transition in our country will be enormous.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 22 Mar 2019, 20:19:21

Plantagenet wrote:Is there any American institution that the Ds don't hate? If they succeed in packing the Supreme Court with Ds and doing away with the electoral college and moving the US away from capitalism and towards socialism, the transition in our country will be enormous.

As upsetting as Trump may be, somehow the likelyhood of the D's magically doing away with the Electoral College isn't something that seems realistic. Nor is packing the SCOTUS with D's in the short run.

The far left socialist loony bin aims to TRY to move us much further toward socialism, IF they can get elected. If the goal is to reduce the overall incentive to work and be productive in America, that one ought to do it. Luckily, I don't see that happening soon, but I've been wrong before.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Pops » Tue 26 Mar 2019, 16:55:28

Tanada wrote:Sure the true blue states can all make their mutual suicide pact to declare all their electors must vote for the winner of the popular vote, but in almost all cases the winner of the popular vote in those states is going to be a D who was going to get all those votes anyhow. This 'pact' is nothing but window dressing to appease the folks who just do not understand how the system works.

Give the libtards a little credit. The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would award all electors from participating states to the winner of the national popular vote. Currently it has 181 votes.

In the event that the Electoral College does get 'done away with' somehow what that really means is you just nationalized the election. Both candidates will be forced to campaign is 'enemy territory' to rack up more votes in the popular count even if they know they are going to lose the state. When in the last 20 years has an R made a serious effort to campaign in California or a D to campaign in Texas? They do not bother because those electoral votes are considered a lock for the opposite party. Switch from electoral college to straight popular vote and all that changes. If Trump had campaigned in California and Hillary had campaigned in Texas would either have swung the state in their favor? I think that would be unlikely in the extreme. However if they had campaigned in those states they would have almost certainly created a bump in the number of votes they received even while losing.


Exactly, after all it is THE national office. My thought isn't that HRC would have won WV but that she or a different candidate would be more concerned about WV and not poke it in the eye to make a point with her "base." To the extent that it would moderate the choice of candidate and or their policy it would go a long way to making government more functional for everyone.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 26 Mar 2019, 17:28:24

Pops wrote:National Popular Vote Interstate Compact[/url] would award all electors from participating states to the winner of the national popular vote.....


Who cares who wins a majority of the popular vote? The US constitution awards the presidency to the person who wins a majority of the electoral college, irregardless of whether or not they win they popular vote.

The electoral college isn't a bug or a mistake....its a clever mechanism the founding fathers devised to prevent domination of presidential elections by local or regional candidates who might run up the vote in a few populous states, but not be the choice of the rest of the country. We saw the importance of the electoral college in 2016----Hillary won a majority of the popular because she won a huge majority of voters in California. But thanks to the electoral college, the will of the people in most of the other states was also important, and indeed won the election for Trump.

I don't want one huge state like California to be able to dominate the politics of the entire United States. There are 49 other states and they also deserve to have a say in electing the president. Thanks to the electoral college and the US Senate, small states are politically powerful in the US----. The founding fathers didn't want a pure democracy and intentionally designed our government to dilute the power of large states. They did this to protect minority viewpoints in our country. Their success is evident...the US is the greatest and most successful Republic in the history of mankind.

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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Pops » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 13:03:19

Plantagenet wrote:
Pops wrote:National Popular Vote Interstate Compact[/url] would award all electors from participating states to the winner of the national popular vote.....


Who cares who wins a majority of the popular vote?

"Gallup polls dating back to 1944 have shown a consistent majority of the public supporting a direct vote."
"A 2007 poll found that 72% favored replacing the Electoral College with a direct election, including 78% of Democrats, 60% of Republicans, and 73% of independent voters"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallup_(company)#Gallup_Poll
https://news.gallup.com/poll/2323/Ameri ... ected.aspx
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/p ... opline.pdf

but don't let that cloud your opinion
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 14:16:47

Pops wrote:"Gallup polls dating back to 1944 have shown a consistent majority of the public supporting a direct vote."
....but don't let that cloud your opinion


My opinion is never based on what a "majority of the public think."

Polling in the US also shows that Most people in the US don't understand how the US government works and don't even know basic facts like what the bill of rights is or what it says.

You are welcome to model your own opinions after those of the general public, but I'd rather think for myself.

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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Pops » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 14:36:42

Plantagenet wrote:
Pops wrote:"Gallup polls dating back to 1944 have shown a consistent majority of the public supporting a direct vote."
....but don't let that cloud your opinion


My opinion is never based on what a "majority of the public think."

Polling in the US also shows that Most people in the US don't understand how the US government works and don't even know basic facts like what the bill of rights is or what it says.

You are welcome to model your own opinions after those of the general public, but I'd rather think for myself.

Cheers!

Blah, your comment was "who cares"
I told you.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 15:13:57

Plantagenet wrote:
Pops wrote:My opinion is never based on what a "majority of the public think."

Polling in the US also shows that Most people in the US don't understand how the US government works and don't even know basic facts like what the bill of rights is or what it says.

You are welcome to model your own opinions after those of the general public, but I'd rather think for myself.

Cheers!

Blah, your comment was "who cares"
I told you.


Are you feeling OK today, Pops?

That response isn't quite as thoughtful and insightful as your usual commentary.

I hope things are going great for you now that you've settled in beautiful Washington state.

I'm out of here now---I have to teach a pickleball class down at the University----but you have a great day, OK?

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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Pops » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 16:10:03

Yeah, bound to be either mental anguish or pathetic subservience.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Cog » Wed 27 Mar 2019, 19:32:09

Then Pops get your majority together and amend the Constitution, instead of trying to make an end run around it. Oh but that is hard to do. Good, it was designed to be that way.

Could we execute the mentally ill if the majority thought it was a grand idea? Or perhaps reinstall slavery if 51% of the voters agreed?

The Constitution was written the way it was for good reason. The Founders feared the tyranny of the majority as much as the tyranny of a monarch. Which is why we have a Constitutional Republic. My rights are not subject to the 51% who want to trample them, thank goodness.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby lpetrich » Wed 01 May 2019, 11:15:53

National Popular Vote -- that effort's home page. It has currently passed in CA, CO, CT, DC, DE, HI, IL, MA, MD, NJ, NM, NY, RI, VT, WA, with 189 electoral votes and 81 EV's to go.

Turning to the Electoral College itself, Founder Alexander Hamilton penned a defense of it in Federalist Paper 68. He proposed it as a sort of committee of experts, a committee that would meet separately in their states to avoid being vulnerable to demagogues and foreign meddling.

As to political parties themselves, the Constitution makes no mention of them, and those Founders who expressed opinions on that subject had rather negative opinions. Founders like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin.

But despite the goo-goo idealism of the Founders, the politicians soon split into political parties, and the EC quickly became a rubber-stamp body. The election of Donald Trump is further evidence of the EC's failure, since he is a demagogue who was assisted by foreign meddling.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 01 May 2019, 11:25:17

lpetrich wrote:The election of Donald Trump is ... evidence of the EC's failure...


???????

The job of the Electoral college is to tabulate the count of the electors produced by voting in each state and to declare the winner of the election.

The EC did not fail. It performed its job perfectly.

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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby lpetrich » Wed 01 May 2019, 13:58:33

Then, of course, there is socialism, the right wing's favorite bogeysystem. Right-wingers often use it for governments doing anything that they dislike. That is why they don't call military and police forces socialist, or denounce socialist roads.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby lpetrich » Wed 01 May 2019, 14:03:35

Plantagenet wrote:
lpetrich wrote:The election of Donald Trump is ... evidence of the EC's failure...

The job of the Electoral college is to tabulate the count of the electors produced by voting in each state and to declare the winner of the election.

It failed in its broader purposes, the purposes stated by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Paper #68

From The Avalon Project : Federalist No 68,
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?

But that is what happened with the election of Donald Trump to the presidency. Russian officialdom supported his campaign and did electioneering on his behalf.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 01 May 2019, 15:38:43

lpetrich wrote:[
It failed in its broader purposes, the purposes stated by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Paper #68

From The Avalon Project : Federalist No 68,
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?



Obviously you never read the news.

The Mueller report was released some time ago, with minor redactions, and the two year long investigation found there was no collusion or conspiracy between Trump or his campaign with the Russians.

Your fear that that Trump is somehow controlled by the Russians, ie. is "a creature of their own" in Hamilton's colorful language, has been debunked. The accusations were false.

I'm afraid you've been duped into believing a crazy conspiracy theory.

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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Cog » Wed 01 May 2019, 16:06:31

The Dems simply can't let go of the Russian collusion story because they won't admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate that did not have broad support in the country. I'm ok with this as they will make the same mistake in 2020. The seem to believe that their socialist free stuff is the key to winning. Its not because they are out of touch with what most Americans believe in. If you can't even figure out there are two genders instead of eighty-seven of them, there is not much rational thought you can offer the electorate.
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Re: The Democrats Will Lose the House in 2020

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 03 May 2019, 13:50:06

Cog wrote:Then Pops get your majority together and amend the Constitution, instead of trying to make an end run around it. Oh but that is hard to do. Good, it was designed to be that way.

Could we execute the mentally ill if the majority thought it was a grand idea? Or perhaps reinstall slavery if 51% of the voters agreed?

The Constitution was written the way it was for good reason. The Founders feared the tyranny of the majority as much as the tyranny of a monarch. Which is why we have a Constitutional Republic. My rights are not subject to the 51% who want to trample them, thank goodness.

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Pipe dreams and whining isn't going to get rid of the electoral college.
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