Re: The coming Civil War

jedrider wrote:On the contrary, how do you explain 'white rage'? If not for it's economic roots, then what is it based upon?
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jedrider wrote:On the contrary, how do you explain 'white rage'? If not for it's economic roots, then what is it based upon?
evilgenius wrote:Cog wrote:Unrestricted illegal immigration is an existential threat to the Republic. Trump understands that and so do the people that voted for him. If you support open borders, and the left does, you are as much of a threat to the country as the illegals.
I don't know how true that seemingly obvious statement really is. It's not like illegals are coming here to escape a flood. There is a place they fill in the economy. It's reasonable to debate levels of immigration, but idiocy to stick to a hard line that throws it all into a category where it has to either be denied or can't be talked about for fear of reprisal. You might just as well say, and sound just at presumptuous, that the lack of immigration is an existential threat to the Republic. You'd be just as right. We haven't had the discussion as a body politic about whether the markets are the best place to deal with things like immigration. We sanctify the markets, but then rail against what they bring about. Keep this line of talk up, and you just might succeed at engaging the public in this discussion.
evilgenius wrote:I don't know how true that seemingly obvious statement really is.
Pops wrote:
Beto says he'll 'tear down the wall' ... LOL, what is that about....
Pops wrote:"white guilt"..... A pejorative given to what would seem to be positive emotion
Pops wrote:.... empathy, respect, common courtesy even, are deemed "just as bad" as racism.
Plantagenet wrote:[If you feel guilty about being white then you don't have a very positive self image of yourself. AND if you have a negative opinion about yourself solely because of your race, then you are --by definition---a racist.
Pops wrote:I've met lots of angry white racists.
Pops wrote:Here's another take on it from Geo Will via wiki:
"white guilt a form of self-congratulation, where whites initiate "compassionate policies" toward people of color, to showcase their innocence to racism."
Pops wrote:evilgenius wrote:I don't know how true that seemingly obvious statement really is.
Truth doesn't matter, only belief. Lots of whites in my exact demographic are pissed about something; globalisation maybe, blight of Mayberry, elimination of simple work, rise of the co-ed workplace, demise of what we were raised to believe "manhood" was all about.
Whatever. So they project that fear, frustration, impotence onto a handy target, one they feel beneath them: Mexicans, Muslims, Libtards, dopers, or just people struggling on a lower rung. Part and parcel of that is to exaggerate the threat to some extreme level, whether it's open borders, sharia law, pizzagate or whatever foolishness. Then they pound their scrawny grey chest and shake their plastic guns and fantasize a race war.
Frankly I understand the resentment of fast change and to some extent the downfall of white male dominance. I've been my share of chauvinist, racist, elitist, bigot, misogynist. But somewhere in the DNA I don't just don't seem to begrudge the people 'below' me on the ladder, it is the boot on my head from above that pisses me off.
The reactionary response was subdued on the left through most of my life right up to trump. I think the Merrick Garland nomination, losing the last 2 of 5 POTUS elections while winning the vote, McConnell and Boner saying flat out the Rs would oppose every D proposal in order to limit O to one term, and now the ultimate gingrich is in the White House. The left is now reacting with weirdness of their own,
Beto says he'll 'tear down the wall' ... LOL, what is that about besides just out-gingrich-ing the Rs?
Newfie wrote:Well since I introduced the phrase “white guilt” maybe I should chime in. I had no idea it was such a hot topic.
I was thinking of my many Liberal friends who fawn over every little perceived injustice perpetrated by a white male. And who go exceedingly far out of their way to celebrate and protect anything that is not WASP. To my eye they look and act silly.
Did the officer do the right thing by letting the suspect go? Schools of thought vary. It’s easy to say this or that when you’re calm at a typewriter and there’s no sweat trickling down your back.
But what will happen is that the guys who hang on the corners of 4700 W. Gladys will see more cops, and soon.
Two of them talked to me, as others drove past, slow, to watch.
“Yeah, yeah, I know you,” said a pleasant man who called himself “John” on the corner on Thursday. The other guy looked at my ID, and said his name was “Kass.”
“It wasn’t no ‘mob.’ But this is the hood, man,” said John.
“This (stuff) happens in the hood.”
Not this (stuff), I said.
“It do now,” he said.