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Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2018, 19:30:54
by Cog
I could have written the op-ed. It's just a rehash of all the leftie talking points over the last two years.

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2018, 20:01:35
by lpetrich
Cog wrote:The hate is going to eat you up ralfy. Six more years.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in Fox News.

This was written some years before Donald Trump became Our Dear Leader, I mean President: Michelle Malkin | » Donald Trump’s eminent-domain empire -- MM argued that he is a shameless subsidy sucker, and not a heroic businessman in the fashion of Ayn Rand's heroes.

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2018, 20:03:36
by lpetrich
Cog wrote:I could have written the op-ed. It's just a rehash of all the leftie talking points over the last two years.

Complete with seeming like Mike Pence and Jon Huntsman? Complete with using passive voice and similar sentence lengths and their favorite words and phrases. Like calling Russia "malign" and complaining that President Trump lacks moral "moorings".

It seems that "leftie" here means anyone who does not worship Our Dear Leader, er President Trump. Where does that put all of Donald Trump's right-wing and Republican critics? Are all the "Never Trump" Republicans left-wingers? Is Michelle Malkin a left-winger for having written Michelle Malkin | » Donald Trump’s eminent-domain empire?

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sat 08 Sep 2018, 20:08:16
by lpetrich
ROCKMAN wrote:I - And I don't think its the case but one can't rule out the opinion writer wasn't a plant by the R's.

Whoever wrote it likes Republican policies but dislikes Donald Trump's character. So yes, it could be interpreted as a way of distancing the Republican Party from its current Chief Executive.

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 05:15:46
by Cog
No one who seriously supports Trump policies and agenda, would have written the op-ed. The purpose of the op-ed is to call into question the sanity of the president.

All of course without specific dates, times, and people involved which would lend weight to the argument the are trying to make. There are any number of career SES level people who could have written it, that have no direct knowledge of the inner workings of the white house. Everything in the op-ed are things I've seen written about before over the last two years.

As a funny aside I've seen textural analysis of the op-ed that suggests Trump himself wrote it. He has done things like this before. But regardless, if you won't go on the record with specific detail, it automatically puts into question the validity of such a thing. The writer has an agenda and it's not Maga.

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 06:18:31
by Newfie
And why did the Times run it?

Could they not see the opportunity for it to back fire, add credence to the “deep state” story?

My Wife read a theory that the NYT was jealous of the Wapo for their Woodward “Fear” exclusive and wantednskmething to match. Don’t know.

The “stupid” is pretty thick all around this piece.

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 09:45:42
by evilgenius
Right now, I'd have to say the number one candidate for a small scale war that would galvanize the country behind Trump is saving Venezuela. There's at least as much for angry, fearful people to chew on there as with Colin Kaepernick. And the prime moving causes would be just as easily forgotten as the story developed.

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 11:56:58
by lpetrich
Cog wrote:No one who seriously supports Trump policies and agenda, would have written the op-ed.

I don't see why Trump's policies are dependent on a personality cult of him. Yes, a cult of his personality. Like the ones listed in List of cults of personality - Wikipedia.

In fact, removing him from office has the risk of getting Trumpism without Trump.

The purpose of the op-ed is to call into question the sanity of the president.

There is very good reason to call into question his fitness for the office. The Constitution specifies that one must be at least 35 years old to be the president, but it does not say anything about mental age. Trump's mental age is very evidently much less than 35.

As a funny aside I've seen textural analysis of the op-ed that suggests Trump himself wrote it.

The writing went far over his head, despite his calling himself a "stable genius". He is not known for calling John McCain a "lodestar", he is not known for using words like "impetuous", he is not known for calling Russia "malign", and he is not known for complaining that some people seem to lack moral "moorings". That op-ed also does not contain the crude "we're the best" chest-thumping that he is so fond of.

He has done things like this before

Whatever those things are supposed to be.

The writer has an agenda and it's not Maga.

As if it is dependent on the Presidency of The Leader, Il Duce, Der Führer, Vozhd, ...

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 12:38:22
by Cog
Great. Another Hitler reference. Even for a committed leftist, that must get old for you.

Oh and the obligatory, Sorry your girl lost. That never gets old for me. Lol.

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 14:07:02
by lpetrich
Cog wrote:Great. Another Hitler reference. Even for a committed leftist, that must get old for you.

I didn't mention him by name, but he did have a big personality cult. Along with Il Duce and Vozhd.

Oh and the obligatory, Sorry your girl lost. That never gets old for me. Lol.

As if I have some big personality cult of Hillary Clinton.

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 17:27:09
by Plantagenet
lpetrich wrote:Trump's mental age is very evidently much less than 35 ...


I don't see any evidence to support that. Trump regularly gives long, mostly coherent speeches without relying on a teleprompter (something Obama was incapable of doing) and his policies are successfully juicing the US economy, just as he promised. Getting the US economy revved up is a pretty impressive accomplishment, since Obama and the Ds spent 8 years telling us it was impossible the US economy would ever accelerate again.

The concern about Trump shouldn't be his "mental age" but his "emotional IQ." Trump seems to fly off the handle easily----so easily that the Ds and the media talking heads can troll Trump easily, and Trump always takes the bait.

I sometimes wonder if the anonymous editorial is a total fake----it seems designed to troll Trump and get him upset rather then to accomplish anything.

Cheers!

Re: Trump's Cabinet reportedly discussed invoking the 25th

Unread postPosted: Sun 09 Sep 2018, 18:39:20
by Newfie
A couple of thoughts
1-his emotional IQ seems to resonate with quite a few folks, both loved s and haters
2-in this case it would seems the NYT took the bait, what’s their emotional IQ?

Somewhere on this forum I recently said I felt humans were only slightly advanced over chimps. Some folks took issue with that. I would like to point to the current political environment as something very akin to two tribes of chimps meeting in the forest; much snarling, screaming, racing around, tearing at leaves, etc. Seems pretty similar to me.

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2018, 14:38:01
by Cog
PLO offices have been closed in DC. About time we stopped giving safe haven to terrorists.

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2018, 14:40:53
by Cog
lpetrich wrote:
Cog wrote:The hate is going to eat you up ralfy. Six more years.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in Fox News.

This was written some years before Donald Trump became Our Dear Leader, I mean President: Michelle Malkin | » Donald Trump’s eminent-domain empire -- MM argued that he is a shameless subsidy sucker, and not a heroic businessman in the fashion of Ayn Rand's heroes.


Sorry your girl lost. Perhaps you will run a non criminal or non socialist next time. But I'm highly doubtful.

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2018, 08:42:01
by lpetrich
Cog wrote:
lpetrich wrote:This was written some years before Donald Trump became Our Dear Leader, I mean President: Michelle Malkin | » Donald Trump’s eminent-domain empire -- MM argued that he is a shameless subsidy sucker, and not a heroic businessman in the fashion of Ayn Rand's heroes.

Sorry your girl lost. Perhaps you will run a non criminal or non socialist next time. But I'm highly doubtful.

Ad hominem argument. Attack the post, not the poster. Which you completely failed to do here.

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2018, 09:37:14
by Cog
Donald Trump availed himself of the law to run his business. All of which made him perfectly legal. If you don't like the law call up your legislator and change it. Donald Trump no longer runs Trump Inc. So what was the point you were trying to make exactly?

The voters knew all about this prior to the election and voted him into office anyway. I doubt you bringing it up again will have any more weight to it than it did before.

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Wed 19 Sep 2018, 21:33:15
by Rod_Cloutier
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Tue 25 Sep 2018, 13:03:02
by Cog
Trump destroys the idea of socialism/globalism and promotes nationalism. Shock and Awe from a true American nationalist and not a limp-wristed apologist like Obama and Bush. The man has a big set of clanking balls. This is the man I voted for.

"We reject the ideology of globalism and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism," Trump said.

He referenced a long list of U.N. initiatives, from the International Criminal Court to the Human Rights Council, that his administration is working to undermine.

As far as America is concerned, the ICC has no jurisdiction, no legitimacy and no authority," he said. The U.S. is boycotting the Human Rights Council, arguing it overlooks abuses by some and serves as a venue for anti-American and anti-Israeli action."


Link to the speech for the Peak Oil DSA members who didn't see it live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgmvP-nh0IQ

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Wed 26 Sep 2018, 03:52:09
by careinke
Cog wrote:Trump destroys the idea of socialism/globalism and promotes nationalism. Shock and Awe from a true American nationalist and not a limp-wristed apologist like Obama and Bush. The man has a big set of clanking balls. This is the man I voted for.

"We reject the ideology of globalism and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism," Trump said.

He referenced a long list of U.N. initiatives, from the International Criminal Court to the Human Rights Council, that his administration is working to undermine.

As far as America is concerned, the ICC has no jurisdiction, no legitimacy and no authority," he said. The U.S. is boycotting the Human Rights Council, arguing it overlooks abuses by some and serves as a venue for anti-American and anti-Israeli action."


Link to the speech for the Peak Oil DSA members who didn't see it live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgmvP-nh0IQ


I liked his speech. :)

I liked the commentary afterwards even more, it was hilarious. :lol: I don't think they comprehend what's happening. Paradigm shifts are hard.

Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 1

Unread postPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2018, 08:29:27
by lpetrich
In his recent UN speech, he claimed that his administration has done more than just about any other one in history. That got a huge laugh from the people there, and IMO he deserved it.

I can list several presidents who did a LOT more than he did -- even in their first two years of their presidency.