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asg70 wrote:

Plantagenet wrote:The problem with Anderson Cooper is that much of his reporting is biased and unreliable.

Wow. I missed this thread. I see you've anointed Anderson Cooper on your shit-list right behind Obama and Hillary. Not particularly surprised. And you're hardly one to school anyone on bias.

Plantagenet wrote:

Outcast_Searcher wrote: What does being gay have to do with reporting the news?

Absolutely nothing that I can see.

Anything to use to mudsling, apparently. How about calling him "small hands" to follow your man Trump's playbook? Maybe attack him for having prematurely white hair? You're all about substance, after all.

CHEERS!

Ibon wrote:You really can't engage for years with someone with whom you claim has no substance without then turning that accusation around on yourself to contemplate what substance have I who engages so long with someone else who has none.

A good example in the difference in being in a big city and a rural area or small city, when things go south, is to compare the aftermath of Katrina between New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast.

The differences were stark, to say the very least. Most of the people in New Orleans who died, died after the disaster was over. I was in federal law enforcement and traveled and worked in both places, and a large amount of the deaths in New Orleans were homicides.

So many in fact, (about a fourth) that the Orleans Parish coroner was instructed to stop classifying the deaths as to actual cause, and to substitute "Katrina related" whether you drowned, died of dehydration, or were shot to death.

Things were relatively benign in Mississippi, although the actual damage was much worse.

Katrina convinced me that a big city is not where you want to be when the thin veneer of civilization wears away. Try to imagine dead bodies, lying unrecovered, for three to four weeks, in plain sight. That's how bad things got there.

asg70 wrote:Tribalism fuels bias, fuels denial, fuels magical thinking, etc... It is the root of all evil. That someone like Plant can exhibit tribalism while purporting to care about global warming is exhibit A in that lethal flavor of cognitive dissonance.

We will absolutely enter the final leg of the malthusian catastrophe consuming ourselves with petty finger-pointing and scapegoating because of this tribalism.

Newfie wrote:Picked this up on another site.

A good example in the difference in being in a big city and a rural area or small city, when things go south, is to compare the aftermath of Katrina between New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast.

The differences were stark, to say the very least. Most of the people in New Orleans who died, died after the disaster was over. I was in federal law enforcement and traveled and worked in both places, and a large amount of the deaths in New Orleans were homicides.

So many in fact, (about a fourth) that the Orleans Parish coroner was instructed to stop classifying the deaths as to actual cause, and to substitute "Katrina related" whether you drowned, died of dehydration, or were shot to death.

Things were relatively benign in Mississippi, although the actual damage was much worse.

Katrina convinced me that a big city is not where you want to be when the thin veneer of civilization wears away. Try to imagine dead bodies, lying unrecovered, for three to four weeks, in plain sight. That's how bad things got there.

asg70 wrote:Tribalism trumps rationality, each and every time.

mousepad wrote:I would think that if it's so far off from any rational behavior as to be inferior, it would not have been selected by evolution as the winning trait.

asg70 wrote:

mousepad wrote:I would think that if it's so far off from any rational behavior as to be inferior, it would not have been selected by evolution as the winning trait.

It works at a smaller scale. But the problems we're experiencing now are global and therefore they require a unified response which is impossible in part due to tribalism.

EnergyUnlimited wrote:Why?
We can always make a war and chaos and this alone will reduce economic activity and address our environmental problems by the same.
Some tribes even got nuclear weapons, so resulting reduction of economic activity should be substantial.

asg70 wrote:Reduced economic activity? WWII was responsible for pulling the US out of the great depression and the cold war's military industrial complex was a huge part of US GDP. Hot wars produce a lot of pollution along the way. Tanks are a hell of a lot bigger gas guzzlers than SUVs. The only upside to the biosphere happens after the dust (radioactive or not) settles.