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The future is going to look something like this, alternative energy, alternative weapons.

[quote="vision-masterJust talked to another Nephew yesterday, he's single and pennyless right now and has enough food for like two days. His wealthy sister ignores him. I'm bringing over a bunch of my stocked food items to keep him going for another couple of weeks within a couple of hours. [/quote]

Well, I'm getting kind of off topic on my own thread here ... but this is the kind of thing that starts getting scary.

You know the old story of the grasshopper and the ant.
The grasshopper played, and the ant made preps.

When times got lean and cold, the grasshopper wanted in on the ant's stuff.

Well, when one is the ant (you, me, others making preps), but the grasshopper is someone we love ... what is to be done? Seriously. This is a problem now (obvious from your posts in this thread, and my story about my kids.) How much MORE of a problem is it going to become? And what ARE we ants going to do???

Think I'll start a new thread about this.

Worried.
Lumpy

Sounds good, I'll help as long as he keeps looking for a job. I believe him when he say's any kind of job is hard to get now. All he's had lately are temp jobs.

For myself, now I worry about ME as it looks like I'm gonna need very expensive infusions to keep from locking up (PsA). Not good.

In Turkey, 1 liter of gas is 4.08TL

1 USD =1.6TL

So 1 gallon of gas is 4.08X3.875/1.6= $9.88

Average wage for a new grad is like 1,000TL after taxes which is $660/month. So working 172 hours a month, it comes to $4.5/hr

Do you Americans feel better now?

Take the public transportation and you will be fine

misterno wrote:In Turkey, 1 liter of gas is 4.08TL
1 USD =1.6TL
So 1 gallon of gas is 4.08X3.875/1.6= $9.88
Average wage for a new grad is like 1,000TL after taxes which is $660/month. So working 172 hours a month, it comes to $4.5/hr
Do you Americans feel better now?
Take the public transportation and you will be fine

Ouch!
However, living rural (like we do) means no public transportation.
On the other hand, means growing a lot of our own food.
Lumpy

vision-master wrote:For myself, now I worry about ME as it looks like I'm gonna need very expensive infusions to keep from locking up (PsA). Not good.

Psoriatic Arthritis?
Yeah, not good in terms of $$ for treatment.

(Would have sent this question in PM, but can't seem to PM you.)

Lumpy

$3.49/gal in Central Illinois.

We are discussing at work again whether to go to 4X10hr days to save gasoline expenses.

Lumpy wrote:

misterno wrote:In Turkey, 1 liter of gas is 4.08TL
1 USD =1.6TL
So 1 gallon of gas is 4.08X3.875/1.6= $9.88
Average wage for a new grad is like 1,000TL after taxes which is $660/month. So working 172 hours a month, it comes to $4.5/hr
Do you Americans feel better now?
Take the public transportation and you will be fine

Ouch!
However, living rural (like we do) means no public transportation.
On the other hand, means growing a lot of our own food.
Lumpy

Living in the city, like I do, means no public transportation either, with rare exception.

The pitiful systems in place here in So Calif all have been cut from terrible to virtually worthless in the budget cuts. Even the lucky ones who live by the trains can end up late by hours because they have cut personnel and equipment.

Last I saw (Friday night) gas nearby here (Conifer, CO. Just west of Denver) was $3.25 at an independent station or $3.19 (after discount for supermarket club card for the $3.19). With the way it had been going up all last week, seeing the same stations at $3.35 and $3.29 tomorrow wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Thralen

Gas just jumped for monday morning from $1.26/litre to $1.35/litre!

That's from up to $5.11/gallon now. Still waiting for the complaining to start...

Sorry for the double post - everytime I hit "submit" I got an offline error. Guess it submitted before I went offline...

Filled up at $3.899 this morning. Have seen $3.99 in some areas here.

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I'm using the US liquid gallon , legally defined as 231 cubic inches,equal to exactly 3.785411784 litres

inner Sydney this morning , I filled up at 5.6 US$ per gallon
there has been little change over the month

4$ a gallon is a dream price

Regular today is EUR 1.70 /l . If my calculation is correct that would be $9.01 /usgal

This morning I found it hard to find an empty bicycle rack at work. Might be that it was the first good day in spring, but I guess the fuel prices also are starting to hit home.

Thompson Falls, MT
Town Pump 3.03.9
Conoco 3.16.9
Cheapest?

1.52 a litre in Ireland and rising.

sparky wrote:.
I'm using the US liquid gallon , legally defined as 231 cubic inches,equal to exactly 3.785411784 litres

inner Sydney this morning , I filled up at 5.6 US$ per gallon
there has been little change over the month

4$ a gallon is a dream price

And to think here in Australia we have a better economy than the US, we have a dollar above parity, we have lower government deficits, and yet we are paying about 70% more for our petrol. Hardly seems worth the effort.

Altho I am somewhat protected as I have an Dual Fuel car (LPG and Petrol). With LPG at about 62 cents a litre ($2.35 per gallon), it does work out quite well, even with the 20% less energy output you are supposed to get. Although as my system is a factory fitted one, I am able to get about 9 litres per 100 kilomtres, which is about $5.60 per 100 kilometres highway cycle. Very good figures for a Large car.

Around $3.32 per gallon here in KC.

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The tax on petrol is good ,it's a real tax on real things , it favor those who use gas carefully
and lessen tax on income

The Germans have near double our price and their car industry is feral with success
the U.S. brands are a disaster
...except , oh surprise their European component like Opel and Ford

One day later.....
Thompson Falls, MT
Town Pump 3.19.9
Conoco 3.27.9