Re: The Death of Cities
Posted: Thu 31 Aug 2023, 15:45:01
Plantagenet wrote:noobtube wrote:Crime has always been "bad" in American cities because that's where the wealth is.
That' sounds nice but lets not ignore the data and the math. The government collects data on criminal activity and when you look at the data its clear crime has recently gotten much worse in big cities in the USA.noobtube wrote:people complaining about crime is like someone complaining about being wealthy.
That statement does't make any sense.
When drug addicts living on the street block off a business so customers can't enter, or shoplift so much product that the store has to close it doesn't any sense to expect those people not to complain about it.
People robbing and attacking other people isn't something that people want to put up with. Thats why we have governments that pass laws to discourage criminal activity and police to enforce those laws.
Your implication that people shouldn't complain about increases in crime is silly....people are naturally going to complain when the environment they live in gets worse.noobtube wrote:
The cities have survived fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, power outages, political corruption, and organized crime, and so on. Why? Because cities sit on the best land, with the most infrastructure investment. Young people, immigrants, and the rich love the cities.
Of course. Those are nice sounding and obvious platitudes about cities.
But platitudes don't change the data about what is happening now in US cities.. It's simply a fact that crime rates in many large US cities have recently surged, and in response businesses, hotels and many workers are fleeing those cities.
Cheers!
Oh, when you use platitudes about "crime" and "safe streets" and "police", I guess it's different?
The United States glorifies crime. They made a whole genre of entertainment about it. You ever heard of The Godfather. You ever heard of Scarface. You ever heard of Goodfellas. Let's not talk about The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Dexter, Weeds, and on and on.
Your platitudes about the poor "rich" businessman being a victim of crime or the poor "rich" corporation losing some trinkets off the shelf rings awfully hollow when they got their advantages from the same system that denied it to others. As they say, "it's a cost of doing business." If you can't handle theft, then you shouldn't be in business.
Personally, it drives me nuts that incompetent morons who don't know how to run a business, expect me, as a taxpayer, to pay for their incompetence, while they whine to the press and the police about "the crime" when these same clowns get tax abatements, rebates, subsidies, and straight-up hand-outs from the government (see Tesla).
Where was this whining about retail crime 10 years ago? So, what changed?
Don't give me that things were so much better in the past. I remember the hysteria about drugs in the 80s, street crime in the 90s, and terrorism in the 2000s. It's as if the typical moron listens to the state-run media, and gets hysterical about whatever Fox News, CNN, or MSNBC is screaming about that news cycle.
Corporations are the biggest criminals in the country. But, of course, if you own a corporation, everyone else is the criminal when they aren't allowed to rip you off for "profit" and "stock prices."
Are you going to tell me about the Golden Times of the 1920s, with Al Capone.
Or, the Golden Times of the 1930s with Bonnie and Clyde, and John Dillinger.
Or, the Golden Times of the 1940s with the mob-controlled labor rackets.
Or, the Golden Times of the 1950s with the mob-run Teamsters.
Or, the Golden Times of the 1960s with mob-controlled garment, cement, and construction rackets.
Or, the Golden Times of the 1970s with mob-controlled Vegas.
Or, the Golden Times of the 1980s with the Colombian drug cartels.
Or, the Golden Times of the 1990s with the Russian criminal organizations.
Or, the Golden Times of the 2000s with the corporate-controlled heroin/opium/meth operations.
I guess it's only platitudes when it doesn't match your platitudes about "law and order", "safe streets", and "the crime" that has you in hysterics.