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Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2016, 13:11:29
by onlooker
pstarr wrote:
vox_mundi wrote:Good Luck

I know it's a thankless job but your work is appreciated.


I second that. Thank you very much, Admin.

I third that

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Wed 24 Aug 2016, 01:38:24
by dolanbaker
Here's the error I'm getting.
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Fatal error: SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]

User j5f1d5a9_peakoil already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections [1203]

An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists. in /home3/j5f1d5a9/public_html/forums/includes/db/dbal.php on line 707

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016, 02:26:48
by Cid_Yama
Admin admitted it's screwed. Old software not supported by the new server. Which probably means major downtime and a whole new look with new software, and I'll bet they are trying to figure out how to do this without losing everything.

C'est la vie.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016, 07:27:38
by admin
Here is an update on why this website has gone down so much this week.

On Monday, I made an emergency server move to a setup that works for my test/dev website: peakoil.biz

The new hosting setup could not handle real load and it died with the mySQL max connections error that most people have seen at some point this week.

Last night, I attempted to moved again to a server that was suppose to be better, and eliminate this error. That server failed, but I have some work-around and it should be more stable now.

During times of heavy load, our server is going to fail again with mySQL errors.
If you keep getting logged out, please try Chrome in Incognito mode.

Anyway, I will eventually move this site to a better server, and thank everyone for their patience.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016, 08:26:14
by onlooker
Thanks for the hard work administrator. Your efforts are greatly appreciated by I am sure more than a few here

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016, 08:47:01
by rockdoc123
still have the problem of being logged out when trying to access member view whether I am using Chrome in incognito mode or any other browser.
Also now have to enter my user name and password every time I go to the site.

Not a lot of people trying to access at this point either so doubt that is the problem.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016, 13:43:49
by KaiserJeep
There is of course, more going on here than a misbehaving or inadequate SQL server. I'm a hardware engineer, but even I can tell that.

Firstly, the PO.com Forum is spending a lot of time in the offline cache versus really being online. Perhaps this is the appropriate and even cost-efficient approach to forum operations on the now less-popular PO.com forum, keeping it on a virtual server that brings it online when accessed. Thus the initial delay when you first access the server as it is fetched from cache.

However the caching is too agressive. Most or all of us have had the frustrating experience of spending minutes or even tens of minutes in the offline editor and then having our prose swallowed up by the server SQL error when you post.

Add to that frustration the constant stream of SQL errors we are getting now from the database, which have kicked over another problem. The exception handling routines used by the forum application are very poor, and don't respond soon enough when the application is cached offline. This is my guess about the conniptions we are all experiencing now.

When running on a newer and faster server, this second problem will likely be masked but it will still be present. When the database issues are resolved, somebody needs to follow up on the application bugs we have encountered, and the vender of the application needs to fix these.

The available worarounds are not very enjoyable. I created these paragraphs in an offline text editor in case I have to try more than once to post them.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2016, 15:30:05
by ennui2
Cid_Yama wrote:Admin admitted it's screwed. Old software not supported by the new server. Which probably means major downtime and a whole new look with new software, and I'll bet they are trying to figure out how to do this without losing everything.

C'est la vie.


This site performed like shit 10 years ago when there was a fair amount of traffic and it performs even shittier with next to no traffic.

At this point maybe it would be better to just redirect to a yahoogroup or some other free hosting and be done with it.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 10:17:26
by evilgenius
It still looks like a programming over a server error. For instance, when I clicked on this forum to view it, in the Member View, while looking at the first page I saw in the section to the left of the posts the log-in prompt instead of my avatar image and welcome greeting. Then, when I clicked to go to the second page, I saw my avatar image and welcome greeting. It acts like the session has set the cookie, but certain partial views have got something wrong in not recognizing the user level setting as appropriate to allow them to function as one would expect. It acts like the user level that is set is inappropriate to allow that. Before, this behavior was rampant. Now, it is more confined.

MySQL is practically the backbone of the internet. I can't see how you could have a problem migrating the old server instance to a new one, unless there is some kind of version conflict or setting gone wrong in the new setup. If the old server is still up you can export a sql script that will capture the entire site. Depending upon what type the old instance was, innodb or whatever, you can also copy the pertinent files over and put them into the proper places in the new instance as well. The files go into different places depending upon which type you are dealing with. You have to get them all as well, or you will only capture a portion of the information, like tables only, but table names only and no columns, or no data. Strangely, I was just looking up this very issue the other day for something I had to deal with on my own localhost, after upgrading to foul Windows 10. I found the answer using Mr. Google. My problem was I had already set up some other database instances for some other projects on the new server, and the innodb stuff I used to set them up is all in one file. I couldn't migrate the old instance with a file swap or my new stuff wouldn't be there. With just one database instance to worry about you shouldn't have that problem, though. However, since there is something of the history of the site here, it looks like you did get around that with no problems. I just offer that as a reassurance that you don't need to abandon MySQL. There is a config thing in MySQL where you can enable so many connections. I've seen it I don't know how many times when I've been poking around, but I was always doing something else. That could be what you have to do.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 10:28:06
by vox_mundi
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Forum Posts Member View Works!

Thank You Admin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl4sCOzr9U4

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 11:43:07
by KaiserJeep
I notice that all the political BS threads about Clinton, Trump, the Republicrats and the Demicans are gone. I say good riddance, they were off topic at PO.com anyways.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 11:45:21
by KaiserJeep
Nor is there any editing button for a post just made anymores. Everybody do a manual spell check before posting...

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 11:48:24
by vox_mundi
KaiserJeep wrote:Nor is there any editing button for a post just made anymores. Everybody do a manual spell check before posting...

KJ? Editing Button Works fine for me.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 12:20:00
by rockdoc123
good job admin folks!
give yourselfs an immediate raise!! :razz:

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 12:24:29
by davep
Just seen this. Good luck Dan. If you need any help, you have my email.

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 12:29:39
by davep
It may be missing a few features, but it's massively faster. All hail the shiny new server!

Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2016, 12:40:55
by onlooker
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Re: PeakOil Bug Report

Unread postPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2016, 11:29:00
by vox_mundi
Aw shucks; Efforts to Add New Topic in Members sections fail due to LogIn request cycle bouncing back to PO Forums page (endless loop)

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