GHung wrote:As usual, Adam, you are being obtuse as to what Hubbert was actually predicting and what that was based on. You can't even build a good strawman. Ultimately, I don't even know why you are so focussed on proving Hubbert wrong when even our definition of what oil is has changed.
The definition of oil has not changed. What appears to have happened is that people redefined oil based on the price or technology needed to extract it. That is not a change in the definition of oil. When oil from shale formations was being produced in the late 1880's, no one was claiming it was "unconventional". This is a recent event, and has only happened because peak oilers were otherwise left with egg on their face based on peak oil predictions for 1989, 2000, 2005, 2006, and 2008.
And then it turned out that oil production (oil...long chain molecules of carbons and hydrogens...the same today as they were in the late 1800's) kept going up.
GHung wrote: Seems to me that the whole concept of peak oil scares the crap out of you, as much time and effort that you put into debunking the concept.
Which concept? The one from 1886? 1919? Hubbert's first US claim in 1938? His later one in 1956? Jimmy Carter's running out of the 80's? Colin's peak oil in 1989? Ruppert and Savinar's in 2000? Deffeyes or Simmons in 2005? IEA in 2006? TOD in 2008? The EIA in 2037? You tell me which one I am supposed t be afraid of because seriously, while some people might have the luxury of being endlessly terrified of things claimed before they were born and all throughout their lifetime, I just don't have the time.
GHung wrote: Me? I really don't care since I'm busy getting past my oil addiction while you are busy defending your 19th century energy source.
Getting past your addiction? I filled the wife's Ford the other night, it had half a tank in it but decided that after nearly 6 months and 2000 miles, it was time to add a fresh 6 gallons. I'll put her 333 mpg addiction up against yours any day of the week.
GHung wrote:Maybe your time would be better spent conjuring up more reserves rather than trying to prove some dead guy was wrong.
Rockman and his ilk are doing it every day, and they don't need any help as evidenced by those little prices down at the local gas station...run on down there and see for yourself. The wife's car won't need to go back until spring break, so I won't even care...but you appear to. of course, the glut already created is covering those who still cant figure out how to crack the 100 mpg barrier, let alone the 300+ mpg one.