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The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 08:37:29

For all the circular references used here, I suppose it isn't a surprise that this was missed. After all, it doesn't come from a blog, old or current peak advocate or doomer website.

The United States...from peak oil and gas 45+ years ago to global energy superpower.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=31532
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 09:14:39

Total Production and Consumption per year (2014)
(Quadrillion BTU):

USA: Production - 82.019. Consumption - 98.301
China: Production - 91.973. Consumption - 119.533
Russia: Production - 55.333. Consumption - 30.676
KSA: Production - 27.588 Consumption - 10.316

Data from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... production
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby marmico » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 10:59:48

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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby StarvingLion » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 13:38:19

[energy producing superpower] backed by unbacked currency of Shale oil printing and completely useless intermittent "renewables".

so to correct the the title, The U.S. ,degenerative entity converging towards Zimbabwe

because it deeply believes in fake money and free electricity from the electromagnetic spectrum.
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 14:29:34

StarvingLion wrote:[energy producing superpower] backed by unbacked currency of Shale oil printing and completely useless intermittent "renewables".


Interesting that the real live non-advocate analysts of the EIA didn't say that. But those who can't stand the idea of what the US has managed to do, in terms of energy production, 45+ years after peakers proclaimed oil and gas peak.

StarvingLion wrote:so to correct the the title, The U.S. ,degenerative entity converging towards Zimbabwe

because it deeply believes in fake money and free electricity from the electromagnetic spectrum.


I understand the title might be disturbing to those who can't even address the facts demonstrated by non-advocate analysts...to whit...the US is THE energy super-producer on this planet. 45+ years after the prophets of peakers proclaimed it peaked in oil and gas production.
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Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 18:03:10

StarvingLion wrote:[energy producing superpower] backed by unbacked currency of Shale oil printing and completely useless intermittent "renewables".

So in your world, tight oil fracked from shale is a problem because the US isn't on a gold standard? Hint: We weren't on a gold standard for about 4 decades before net US new LTO production led to the current glut.

And renewables are "useless" in your mind because:

1). A battery can't be charged by a solar roof if a cloud passes over once in a while?

2). Batteries don't exist?

3). Energy is only "real" if a FF is burned to produce it?

4). Wind is useless besides the fact that it now produces a tremendous amount of energy, and rapidly growing year by year?

...

Do you ever write anything with substance, BTW?
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby AdamB » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 19:47:33

Outcast_Searcher wrote:Do you ever write anything with substance, BTW?


Oh please. If that were the standard for posting the entire ETP thread would have been erased 4 minutes after it was first thrown out there to generate report sales. And this is a PEAK OIL website, supposedly, and the entire concept has been polluted with ideas without substance by the oil-amateurs that you are, in effect, advocating for its dissolution.
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby pstarr » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 22:54:34

We are the superduper energy superpowers of the entire world.
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby asg70 » Fri 09 Jun 2017, 23:44:44

pstarr wrote:We are the superduper energy superpowers of the entire world.
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 00:33:25

asg70 wrote:
pstarr wrote:We are the superduper energy superpowers of the entire world.
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Empty mockery is all you've got left when you've lost an argument.

In your mind. What argument did I lose?

lol
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Unread postby AdamB » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 15:44:32

pstarr wrote:
asg70 wrote:
pstarr wrote:We are the superduper energy superpowers of the entire world.
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Empty mockery is all you've got left when you've lost an argument.

In your mind. What argument did I lose?

lol


As best I can tell after hanging around here for more than a year now...all of them.
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby coffeeguyzz » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 16:06:13

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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 16:23:09

Words of wisdom from two industry insiders. One an tight-shale investment salesperson, the other a hopeful intern. -1,000 lol

Let's start with this (picked from PeakBarrel):
“Law firm Haynes and Boone LLP said the U.S. oilfield sector experienced 127 bankruptcies between 2015 and April 2017.

Among the 10 largest oilfield service providers, just five were profitable last quarter, the same number as a year ago.”
I could dig this stuff up all day:
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 17:49:16

pstarr wrote:Let's start with this (picked from PeakBarrel):
“Law firm Haynes and Boone LLP said the U.S. oilfield sector experienced 127 bankruptcies between 2015 and April 2017.

Among the 10 largest oilfield service providers, just five were profitable last quarter, the same number as a year ago.”
I could dig this stuff up all day:


And how many are there in existence, to compare to? And how does that number compare to the real energy crisis of the mid-1980's?

Some people, those who can't be bothered to learn anything about the industry, don't even know that Drake borrowed money to drill his first oil well. And he died broke. You haven't come up with nothing new, only demonstrated that you don't even understand that during the best of times, companies go bankrupt. Moreso during down cycles. But the consumer doesn't care, because down cycles tend to equate to lower prices, and if there is one thing that the oil companies have been able to count on for more than a century and a half now, it is people exactly like you pstarr, continuing to buy their products no matter how much you whine about their existence. Industry thanks you pstarr, for not having the courage of your convictions. Keep up the good work!
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 18:51:31

Same ole, same ole, same ole diversions. Plus the weird key words? Drake's well, peak oil 1887, Laheurre is a meany, you are a doomer.

Adam you have become a broken record. Quick question: how does the United States become an energy superpower when it imports half it's oil. And its oil companies are essentially buried to their necks, in debt, down a dry hole? Without oil.
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Unread postby AdamB » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 18:55:48

pstarr wrote:Same ole, same ole, same ole diversions. Plus the weird key words? Drake's well, peak oil 1887, Laheurre is a meany, you are a doomer.


I've said it before, peak oil ignorance of oil industry (and even peak oil) history is legion.

I visited the Rathbone well 2 weeks ago, you wouldn't be familiar with that one either, because you lack historical perspective. You believe in peak a decade ago that isn't bothering you today, or much of anyone else. But keep using petrochemical products pstarr, industry thanks you for your patronage.

pstarr wrote:Adam you have become a broken record. Quick question: how does the United States become an energy superpower when it imports half it's oil.


If you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the well explained graphic provided by the EIA, find a 8 or 9 year old to explain it to you.
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Unread postby pstarr » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 19:08:57

You visited the Rathbone? Did you find more oil?
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Aren't such field trips below your pay grade. Something you usually assign to the explorations engineers. Or were you there for a knitting bee? :P
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby pstarr » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 19:41:46

That sign reveals a lot more than just your obnoxious trolling, Adam. Those folks dug a shallow oil well with 'spring pole'.
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It produced 100 barrels of oil per day with little more than a boulder and some sticks.

Today one single Bakken well also produces 100 barrels of oil a day. It cost $10 million and uses more than a boulder . . . 2 to 10 million gallons of H2O, 1,400 truck trips and 4 million pounds of proppant. And you still don't understand the thermodynamic issue we have here? Astounding. Really unbelievable :shock:
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 20:10:33

pstarr wrote:You visited the Rathbone? Did you find more oil?
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I have exactly that picture in my phone now. Also others, showing the production equipment they've sort of attempted to rig up.

pstarr wrote:Aren't such field trips below your pay grade.


They come in handy during petroleum geology and history presentations. Anyone can google up wiki learning, as you often demonstrate. I've got pictures of the newer production equipment on the well, in addition to the older, more original equipment it looks as though they want to turn into a working demonstration. Try and wiki that up. Could you provide an estimate of the type of rig setup you would need to pull the old rods out, replace the pump, maybe the rods as well? Assuming you want to, or someone is paying you to, from your vast wiki knowledge..

Stick with drinking beer and enjoying a good clear cutting pstarr, things you have demonstrated an ability for. Leave the oil stuff for the adults.

pstarr wrote: Something you usually assign to the explorations engineers. :P


May I recommend you stop using wiki, or worse yet making it up, it just makes it obvious that you don't know anything. You don't have to keep proving it.
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Re: The U.S., energy producing superpower

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 10 Jun 2017, 20:34:52

pstarr wrote:Today one single Bakken well also produces 100 barrels of oil a day. It cost $10 million and uses more than a boulder . . . 2 to 10 million gallons of H2O, 1,400 truck trips and 4 million pounds of proppant. And you still don't understand the thermodynamic issue we have here? Astounding. Really unbelievable :shock:


The EIA graph discusses how the US is THE global energy producing superpower. It is clear, and concise in that regard. Go pollute some other thread with what you think you were taught about thermodynamics at the Stoner Instructional Complex. Got pictures of that one while checking into the Drake and Hart wells. Have you ever done or learned anything in meat space that allows you to post better here on these topics ? Other than the drinking and enthusiastic spectating at those clear cutting events.
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