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However, the "popular" hugo NEEDS to bus people in, from the WHOLE damned country, just to make it seeminly up ......

If he's not so popular then how come he's been elected, re-elected, reinstalled to power following a counter coup and won a vote of confidence in a national referendum.

Oh, I've tried this line with him. He just steamrolls over it. He's not about facing the truth or logic of the situation, just about his agenda. He's probably just like those monied clowns who've been living in Miami for 50 years, claiming to be better Cubans than the ones who live there, and to know what's best for the place they had to flee because they'd been sucking its blood since the Spanish left. Never mind he keeps winning elections, won a recall, faced down a coup because of popular support, lost a referendum and bowed to the outcome, no... no, he's a fake and he has to stuff buses to get people to listen to him. Yeah, uh huh. This is "reality" for Pana when he lights up a $50 and smokes it.

You mean the goodfelluh organized crime kingpins and their minions who helped bump Kennedy off? Oh, those monied clowns. Pana is probably some guy struggling to make ends meet while toiling at 7/11. But you can certainly tell what and who he aspires to be and how much a** he'll kiss to get there.

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Boy you have certainly gone a looong way...... jezzz!

And tell me you also know how to roll and give your little hand without barking, ehh?

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Besides common currency and a central bank being discussed in this thread, Brasil proposes Latin American security/military alliance link

SANTA CRUZ, Bolivia | Regional giant Brazil is the driving force behind a proposed new South American defense grouping that threatens to exclude the United States from regional military planning at a time of growing tensions between Washington and leftist Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

The creation of a South American Security Council, which would include oil-rich Venezuela, Chile and Argentina, was proposed by Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva at a meeting of 11 Latin American countries held in Brazil's capital, Brasilia, in May.

The security council would be part of an even larger effort led by Brazil to create a new Union of South American Nations, modeled on the European Union. The group would be known by its Spanish-language acronym, UNASUR, and would unite the two rival South American trading blocs, Mercosur and the Andean Community.

The council within UNASUR "excludes the presence of countries located outside the region, as would be the case of the United States," said Brazilian Defense Minister Nelson Jobim. Mr. Jobim drafted the proposal at a preparatory session last month with Mr. Chavez in Venezuela. The meeting also was attended by top military commanders from both countries.

Is this maybe a reaction to the U.S. Navy's 4th Fleet?

Brazil, which has maintained friendly relations with Washington and Caracas, has said that any UNASUR security alliance would be purely defensive and mainly aimed at standardizing military procurement and training.

"We don't [seek] territorial expansion, but we should have the arms to project our [deterrence] capacity," Mr. Jobim said.