[mattduke]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) criticized other legislators for ducking a confrontation with President Obama over Libya on Wednesday, saying Congress had become “not even a rubber stamp, but an irrelevancy” in matters of war.

Rand states the obvious.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

[Cog]

yes

[dinopello]

Ron Paul is calling it quits

Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul made a surprise announcement Tuesday that he will not seek re-election to Congress, spelling an end to a nearly 24-year House career amid his third run for president.

[RepublicanfromEngland]

Hello,

I've known of this forum for a while now, I decided to join. I'm twenty three, from the UK, England, Greater London.

I've known about this energy problem since I was eighteen, I have an interest in political affairs, I know of Ron Paul, in fact it was his 2007 run for high office in the states that got me interested in certain aspects of Uk politics, such as foreign policy or patriotism, freedom, etc

I am a socialist leaning, I do not agree with Mr Paul's society outlook, in other areas like I mentioned above, definately.

I am a member on the Ron Paul forums, most folk there tend to ignore energy problems, even on America's debate, totally opposite to the Ron Paul crowd. On America's debate they discuss running the world and the intellectual debate, where as the RP crowd enjoy talking about defence and not militarism, which I do agree with.

In the past, through here, posters have said, his vision is going back to the old west. Ron is much more reasonable than that, he would never just close everything down, he would need the congress's approval first.

On foreign policy - I tell the generals what to do, I like his anti war spirit, pro strong defence position. I think if he could get elected, that is all he could possibly achieve. I could be wrong

Though getting through to those career building stereo typical men and a few women who wear the uniform out of blind ignorance, is a tough one to end. Conflict, empire building is as old as early societies.

[Rod_Cloutier]

Ron Paul publically withdrew from this presidential campaign on the tonight show a few weeks ago. That is that.

Both Obama and Romney want a war with Iran. The next 4 years will be awful, doesn't matter which one gets in.

[RepublicanfromEngland]

Repent, I know. I did say I am a member of the Ron Paul forums, two years now.

The Jewish lobby in America is pretty strong compared to here in the UK, the Prime minister's office is partially compromised by the Israeli groups, but it isn't that strong.

Worst of all, those bible belt christian cults are essentially selling out their own country, and the congress there too. If I remember correctly, there is a treason clause in the US constitution, never followed up.

[Rod_Cloutier]

Ron Paul gave a farewell speech this week. It was perhaps the most important speech of our times and I feel it has been glossed over. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... aP_QTV4aWQ

I kept asking myself while watching this 'Why is this man not the President of the United States right now? Why is this man not the leader of the free world, while it is still free?"

When the extreme left and the extreme right both wanting the same things, something has changed in our society! Ron Paul stands as a visionary for all the revolutionary ideas of the left, and the right. What happened to our society? How did we come to this predicament?

[Lore]

Ron Paul gave a farewell speech this week. It was perhaps the most important speech of our times and I feel it has been glossed over. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... aP_QTV4aWQ

I kept asking myself while watching this 'Why is this man not the President of the United States right now? Why is this man not the leader of the free world, while it is still free?"

When the extreme left and the extreme right both wanting the same things, something has changed in our society! Ron Paul stands as a visionary for all the revolutionary ideas of the left, and the right. What happened to our society? How did we come to this predicament?

We never left our predicament. Libertarian democracy suggests man is rational and will therefore choose what's best for society. This has obviously never been true. So figures like Ron Paul merely represent a thought exercise.

[Rod_Cloutier]

Libertarian democracy suggests man is rational and will therefore choose what's best for society. This has obviously never been true. So figures like Ron Paul merely represent a thought exercise.

No, I disagree. Growing up in the 70's the pre-baby boomer generation and those before them had a maturity to them that is absent today. Yes, they were way more racist, homophobic, intolerant, ect, however they were clearly what Ron Paul commends as a self-disciplined, and liberty seeking population.

At some point in the far future, after collapse humans may have that maturity again; and this speech will be used to signify the point in the past where liberty finally died. We may get all the social ills back with that maturity; the chauvinism, the xenophobia, the intolerance, but liberty will once again become a virtue to be pursued.

Sad to mark the end of this chapter as the liberty we knew is ending.

[Lore]

Libertarian democracy suggests man is rational and will therefore choose what's best for society. This has obviously never been true. So figures like Ron Paul merely represent a thought exercise.

No, I disagree. Growing up in the 70's the pre-baby boomer generation and those before them had a maturity to them that is absent today. Yes, they were way more racist, homophobic, intolerant, ect, however they were clearly what Ron Paul commends as a self-disciplined, and liberty seeking population.

At some point in the far future, after collapse humans may have that maturity again; and this speech will be used to signify the point in the past where liberty finally died. We may get all the social ills back with that maturity; the chauvinism, the xenophobia, the intolerance, but liberty will once again become a virtue to be pursued.

Sad to mark the end of this chapter as the liberty we knew is ending.

I grew up in that generation and participated myself in the idealistic, if somewhat naive, expressions of freedom. It's that same generation today that has been running things for a while. I'm afraid humans, like most animals, are governed more deeply by ancient DNA that can't be changed or ignored by simple theories contrary to its nature.

[Subjectivist]

Ron Paul hospitalized for 'precautionary' reasons after appearing to suffer medical episode on livestream

Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul has been hospitalized for "precautionary" reasons after he appeared to suffer a stroke during a live episode of his political show Liberty Report.

Paul, an 85-year-old former obstetrician who twice ran for president as a Republican, was in the middle of a conversation on his show on Friday when he began to slur words as a guest watched.

Speaking during her afternoon show on Fox News on Friday, host Harris Faulkner reported that Paul is "lucid and optimistic" at the hospital, and the former presidential candidate confirmed that he was doing OK, sharing a positive message on his Twitter.

"I am doing fine," Paul wrote in a tweet later in the afternoon, along with a picture of him giving a thumbs-up at the hospital. "Thank you for your concern."

Fox News congressional reporter Chad Pergram first reported that Paul, the father of Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, was hospitalized for “precautionary” reasons on Friday afternoon.

A flood of well-wishers commented on Twitter, including Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie, who asked his followers to pray for the anti-war icon.

Maine state Sen. Erik Brakey, who moved to the state in 2012 to work for Paul's presidential campaign, called the Texan "the greatest champion of liberty in a generation."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ive-stream