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Re: Runaway Global Warming - Has Arrived pt 15

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 10:01:49

onlooker wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/02/06/sorry-earth-the-ozone-layer-isnt-healing-itself-after-all/

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Article's lying. If there really were offset for Ozone Depletion in Tropo and Upper Stratosphere we wouldn't be having half of all solar radiation hitting the surface be UVB, when it should be under 5%. And all major institutions still say UVC doesn't enter despite peer reviewed studies and people with meters who've been measuring it for over a decade now. Honestly glad I didn't learn about this before because the consequences really are horrendous. Stay out of direct sun folks and eat eggs, liver, mushrooms for vitamin D before we go extinct. [smilie=clock.gif]
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Re: Runaway Global Warming - Has Arrived pt 15

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 10:03:51

onlooker wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/02/06/sorry-earth-the-ozone-layer-isnt-healing-itself-after-all/

Sorry, Earth, The Ozone Layer Isn't Healing Itself After All


As pointed out in the article if you actually read it through the Ozone quantity in the atmosphere as a whole is nearly steady. It has increased in the upper troposphere and decreased in the lower stratosphere more or less in balance. IOW an interesting effect, but not a reason for blind panic and claims that 80% of the ozone layer has gone away forever.
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Re: Runaway Global Warming - Has Arrived pt 15

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 10:11:55

Tanada wrote:
onlooker wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/02/06/sorry-earth-the-ozone-layer-isnt-healing-itself-after-all/

Sorry, Earth, The Ozone Layer Isn't Healing Itself After All


As pointed out in the article if you actually read it through the Ozone quantity in the atmosphere as a whole is nearly steady. It has increased in the upper troposphere and decreased in the lower stratosphere more or less in balance. IOW an interesting effect, but not a reason for blind panic and claims that 80% of the ozone layer has gone away forever.


Don't be so gullible ffs. This article points to just one destructive source of the ozone: https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... estigators
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Re: Runaway Global Warming - Has Arrived pt 15

Unread postby jupiters_release » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 10:37:08

This belongs more in the geoengineering thread but you can see in this vid another destructive source of the ozone: https://youtu.be/j7TOPdn_d6o
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Re: Runaway Global Warming - Has Arrived pt 15

Unread postby dissident » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 21:59:31

onlooker wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/02/06/sorry-earth-the-ozone-layer-isnt-healing-itself-after-all/
Sorry, Earth, The Ozone Layer Isn't Healing Itself After All


Here is one of the causes of this effect:

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com ... 18JD029400

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4981078/

Short lived chlorine compounds can make it into the lower most stratosphere but are not significant above.

Another effect that I will speculate is important is the increasing trend in H2O in the lower most stratosphere due to warming. This extra H2O burden results in more ice clouds (cirrus). Ice clouds do not just from below the tropopause but above it as well since they are not convective clouds. Any ice surface area in the lower most stratosphere will provide a heterogeneous chemical reaction surface for O3 destruction. This is related to the PSCs in the polar night but less intense. Surface chemistry is peculiar since there is a Gibbs free energy impact on chemical potentials due to unbalanced EM forces. One phase of matter separated from another by a sharp surface is different for molecules in terms of Van der Waals forces compared to being inside a continuous phase. Surface tension is one such effect. The Laplace pressure differential for nano-particles is enormous: a 6 nm spherical liquid drop has a Laplace pressure of 10,000 atmospheres. That is why nano-emulsions kill bacteria and aerosol nano-particles enter directly into the blood stream after literally shredding through the lung cell membrane.
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