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THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

loss of phytoplankton

Unread postby trackfodder » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 22:10:51

This is just a theory, but most of the liberals are ignoring the FACT that a chain of 12 underwater volcanoes in the ocean are erupting and screwing the fishing up and melting the polar ice. It follows there would be a high acidity due to sulphur and may be killing off the phytoplankton. There is nothing we can do about it except stuff the fissures full of global warming wonks to stop them up. We may also have strange jet-stream and hurricane activity from the rise in ocean temperature.
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Re: loss of phytoplankton

Unread postby SilentRunning » Wed 28 Mar 2012, 23:39:24

Your grade on this homework assignment is an F-. See attached corrections.

This is just an theory Big Carbon diversion tactic , but most of the liberals are correctly ignoring the FACT hallucination that a chain of 12 underwater volcanoes in the ocean are erupting and screwing the fishing up and melting the polar ice. It follows there would be a high acidity due to sulphur dissolved CO2 and may be killing off the phytoplankton. There is nothing we can do about it except stuff the fissures full of global warming wonks to stop them up take action to reduce global CO2 emmissions. We may also have strange jet-stream and hurricane activity from the rise in ocean temperature - caused by man-made global warming gas emmisions.
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Re: loss of phytoplankton

Unread postby Sys1 » Thu 29 Mar 2012, 14:46:13

SilentRunning : Nice, it reminds me when they said on weather channel that air "will be polluted tomorrow because of sun, heat and pollen". And cars?
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Re: loss of phytoplankton

Unread postby Livewire713 » Thu 29 Mar 2012, 15:07:55

trackfodder wrote:This is just a theory, but most of the liberals are ignoring the FACT that a chain of 12 underwater volcanoes in the ocean are erupting and screwing the fishing up and melting the polar ice. It follows there would be a high acidity due to sulphur and may be killing off the phytoplankton. There is nothing we can do about it except stuff the fissures full of global warming wonks to stop them up. We may also have strange jet-stream and hurricane activity from the rise in ocean temperature.


Never heard of these 12 underwater volcanoes. How about a link?
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THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 3

Unread postby kiwichick » Wed 16 Mar 2016, 19:13:40

good
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby americandream » Wed 16 Mar 2016, 19:19:18

dohboi wrote:http://ecowatch.com/2016/03/14/atlantic-salmon-extinct/

Atlantic Salmon Is All But Extinct as a Genetically Eroded Version of Farmed Salmon Has Taken Over


Wonder what the impact will be long term?
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 17 Mar 2016, 19:17:02

Good to their word Indonesia has sunk the bandit ship they caught.

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articl ... y-interpol

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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby kiwichick » Mon 21 Mar 2016, 01:32:10

it will be interesting to see what the January - March Ocean Heat Content figure comes in at
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 22 Mar 2016, 09:16:11

Latest from Hansen...came out yesterday on his paper out today.

Rapid SLR, AMOC shut down, and super storms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP-cRqCQRc8

(Thanks to anna at rs for this link)

What the gardian says about it :
Climate guru James Hansen warns of much worse than expected sea level rise
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... -scientist

Hansen is also conservative! Though he is probably right there is not enough data to be sure; the trend is less than a 10 year doubling. Should we wait for more data ? ... personally I would say no !

(Thanks to Laurent at neven's for this link and text)
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby dohboi » Wed 23 Mar 2016, 12:06:30

Another feedback that will likely drive sea level rise faster than what is currently predicted in most models--bacteria darkening the GIS: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere ... ctive.html
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby dohboi » Wed 23 Mar 2016, 22:11:01

true risks of abrupt sea level rise:


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... eview.html


Hansen’s co-author Eric Rignot said in an email that the exploration of such extreme scenarios was justified “because they are not unlikely, and they are more likely than the more conservative scenarios branded by [United Nations] reports.”

“Ice sheet loss is non linear by nature,” said Rignot. “You push the ice sheet one way, they do not react; you push them more, they start reacting; you keep pushing and they fall apart. … If we get there, we won't be able to fix it.”

Kim Cobb, a climate scientist specializing in ancient climate change, agrees that the Hansen study is useful mostly because it explores the worst-case scenario. “My bet is on non-linearities kicking in that we cannot yet measure adequately,” Cobb said in an email. “In that way I think it’s important to explore the upper limits.”
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby kiwichick » Fri 25 Mar 2016, 02:41:31

The Guardian reports that the Great Barrier Reef is suffering from it's worst ever coral bleaching............ the scientist that did the aerial survey is pessimistic about the prospects for recovery............the reef is one of the most popular destinations of tourists to Australia..........and a very important source of jobs for the local Queenslanders
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 25 Mar 2016, 08:41:14

kiwichick wrote:The Guardian reports that the Great Barrier Reef is suffering from it's worst ever coral bleaching............ the scientist that did the aerial survey is pessimistic about the prospects for recovery............the reef is one of the most popular destinations of tourists to Australia..........and a very important source of jobs for the local Queenslanders


I read somewhere that the main cause of bleaching events is when the water temperature goes too high the coral expels the algae then living with it in a symbiotic relationship in hopes that it can attract algae that are more suited to the new temperature range.

If that is true it seems like humans should be able to intervene by supplying the more heat adapted algae to the bleached corals before they die without their symbiotic algae. I don't know that would work, but I really think we should at least try and see if we can keep the corals from dying.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 25 Mar 2016, 09:02:59

IIRC, there are some reefs that seem to be more resistant to bleaching. I think someone was studying how that might help us figure out how to save others, but I haven't seen much on that recently.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby dissident » Fri 25 Mar 2016, 09:44:30

The change in acidity is the show stopper since biochemistry is not "tunable". The biogeochmemical stress of humanity on the oceans is going to be the real disaster story in the coming decades and centuries. And the past is a guide since ocean anoxic conditions induced by previous warming events point to a very sensitive system.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby kiwichick » Fri 25 Mar 2016, 18:24:36

+1 diss

and if we are adding ghg's at 10x the rate of the previous fastest rate scientists have found in the geological record , we are looking at the extinction of 90+% of life in our oceans.

is it one or two billion humans that are largely reliant on the oceans for their food?
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 26 Mar 2016, 08:48:47

Just to be clear, kw, that's the carbon weight. The actual full weight of the greenhouse gasses we are emitting is ~ 35 - 40 billion tons/year.
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby kiwichick » Sat 26 Mar 2016, 13:05:36

@ d

yes I thought I read that maximum emissions peaked at about 4 million tonnes ( during the PETM )
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Re: THE Oceans & Seas Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby kiwichick » Sat 26 Mar 2016, 13:18:19

sorry ......billion tonnes.....
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Unread postby onlooker » Sun 03 Apr 2016, 12:13:45

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“Mind Blowing”: Die-off in Pacific far worse than anything ever seen before — Expert: Alarm over what’s happening in ocean — Deaths puzzling gov’t scientists, “I’ve never heard of such a thing anywhere in world” — Reports: Beaches full of bodies… Countless carcasses — Official: We want to know if it’s related to Fukushima (VIDEO)
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