[vision-master]

Help me with this?

[peeker01]

it's a beauty ain't it vm? this graph is what prompted Kevin Trenberth to say "they can’t account for the lack of recent warming and that it is a travesty that they can’t." (climategate)

[evilgenius]

it's a beauty ain't it vm? this graph is what prompted Kevin Trenberth to say "they can’t account for the lack of recent warming and that it is a travesty that they can’t." (climategate)

What's not to account for? If you think so small that every time the measurement for a year is colder than the previous year you cheer because you can't accept global warming, yet ignore the long-term trend, then you are no better than a gambler who ignores their losses and sees only their wins. If you do a Google search for most things related to global warming you will run across many results that are older in date that purport to say that some current to the time of the post one off measurement dooms the global warming hypothesis. The only thing is those search results usually occur in the context of a continuance, year on year since the year of the post, of the trend that they attempt to refute.

[peeker01]

Are you referring to the temperature decline from 1940 to 1975? Best not to ignore such data.
Long before the Chinese discovered coal fired generating plants too.

[peeker01]

Pee, I don't believe I have disclosed my faith to you, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't
bring it into discussions of global warming or peak oil. Is there a moderator in the house?

[eXpat]

Pee, I don't believe I have disclosed my faith to you, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't
bring it into discussions of global warming or peak oil. Is there a moderator in the house?

For a long standing troll like yourself shorty you are very touchy today

[Livewire713]

Pee, I don't believe I have disclosed my faith to you, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't
bring it into discussions of global warming or peak oil. Is there a moderator in the house?

For a long standing troll like yourself shorty you are very touchy today

So its ok if you refer to pstar as Pee? He is not only touchy but a hypocrite as well.

[dohboi]

He is also a total and hopeless moron, or worse.

He thinks (or pretends to think) that static in a clear trendline makes that trend irrelevant.

He is so utterly lost in this moronic thought process that he thinks just posting graphs will make his position clear to everyone.

I have a sneaking suspicion that vm, tinmac, meemoe, and p01 are all the same idiot.

Perhaps it is just my wishful thinking that the universe could not hold that many different totally clueless dimbulbs?

[peeker01]

brilliant as usual dooobie.

[steam_cannon]

it's a beauty ain't it vm? this graph is what prompted Kevin Trenberth to say "they can’t account for the lack of recent warming and that it is a travesty that they can’t." (climategate)

Ok so it looks like you posted a link to charts at NASA to create an anti-NASA anti-climate troll thread. Lame. NASA is a source of reliable climate data, not soap box to stand on and take a "Pee".

Pee, I

Witty. Oh by the way you know your username starts with the letters "Pee". Just thought I'd point that out.

[peeker01]

The chart speaks for itself, steamer, and so does Kevin Trenberth.

[sicophiliac]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hN9koWGOBnOd9Sx4D-7y_R3ajx7w?docId=568ebb460b3a4336811dfb436b18aa07

It will be the most powerful rocket ever built even outdoing the legendary Saturn V rockets from the 60s/70s and finally we might actually have a chance at sending humans to Mars. Although I am not terribly optimistic when it comes to the future of the United States I hope at least that somehow this program gets pulled off. Seeing man sets foot on Mars would be a truly epic experience for me and I hope it happens.

[Sys1]

It will be -just- 20% more powerfull than Saturn V...if it ever gets real before the end of our civilisation.

[Windmills]

Lovely. More billions on taxpayer funded space camping trips. Let private industry do it--and not through corporate welfare handouts. They can use their own funding, too.

[eXpat]

It will be -just- 20% more powerfull than Saturn V...if it ever gets real before the end of our civilisation.

That is a big if

[nobodypanic]

Lovely. More billions on taxpayer funded space camping trips. Let private industry do it--and not through corporate welfare handouts. They can use their own funding, too.

they can't - and haven't been able to do 'it' in a very long time. and i don't mean build a rocket; i mean get along without government demand (what you rightly label 'corporate welfare').

aside from that... space represents an area of hope: if humanity finds a way to get into space in a serious fashion, the species is effectively 'saved' and can thumb its nose at finite resources for quite some time. and given that, i think its a good expenditure of resources, especially considering that the capital outlays for something like this (given the high risk and long time-line before profitability) are beyond private industry.

[nobodypanic]

It will be -just- 20% more powerfull than Saturn V...if it ever gets real before the end of our civilisation.

'just'?

20% is a significant increase.