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THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby mousepad » Tue 09 Mar 2021, 21:17:26

Tanada wrote:
So the recent trend has been 10 ppmv ever 4.5 years.

Why isn't the increase accelerating year after year? Arent' we burning tons of more fossil fuels than 20 years ago?
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 09 Mar 2021, 21:30:22

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Tanada wrote:
So the recent trend has been 10 ppmv ever 4.5 years.

Why isn't the increase accelerating year after year? Arent' we burning tons of more fossil fuels than 20 years ago?


Yes, we're burning more fossil fuel and yes the increase is accelerating year after year.

You can see this clearly in the following plot. Notice how the Keeling Curve steepens through time.....a steeper curve reflects more rapid accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere due to greater human CO2 emissions through time.

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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 10 Mar 2021, 00:19:32

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Tanada wrote:
So the recent trend has been 10 ppmv ever 4.5 years.

Why isn't the increase accelerating year after year? Arent' we burning tons of more fossil fuels than 20 years ago?


As is often noted, its complicated. While most scientists believe we are emitting CO2 at a much greater rate than 20 years ago and we have a bunch of items like China and India building hundreds of new coal fired generating plants we also have to opposite drive with a large number of North American coal burning plants switching to burning Natural Gas because in many markets it is cheaper than shipping in coal and paying for all the very intensive scrubbing needed to pull the fly ash, NOx and SOx radicals out of the effluent. Adding a set of natural gas burners that can be routed through the same fire tube boilers previously in use with a coal fire is not a difficult thing to do provided you have a large capacity natural gas main line feeding your power station. Under the administration of President Obama a large number of American coal burning plants that were quite old were outright scrapped and another large number were converted over to burn gas which has reduced US coal consumption by a good margin over say 2005 when Natural Gas was very expensive. In addition many countries in the EU have followed similar steps to reduce their coal consumption. Also the period from 2008-2018 in North America had a pretty sluggish industrial economy with a lot of factories and coal intensive industries like iron refining declining and/or moving over seas. Even the rapid increase in ICE vehicles for private owners in China is being partially offset by a sluggish American economy leading to people driving more fuel efficient vehicles or making fewer trips because of limited spending power.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby mousepad » Wed 10 Mar 2021, 16:16:11

Plantagenet wrote:
You can see this clearly in the following plot. Notice how the Keeling Curve steepens through time.....a steeper curve reflects more rapid accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere due to greater human CO2 emissions through time.

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That's true. I didn't calculate the yearly values carefully enough or I would have seen the increase in Tanada's numbers.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 17 Apr 2021, 20:55:53


March 2021: 417.64 ppm
March 2020: 414.74 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 17 Apr 2021, 20:56:45


Week beginning on April 4, 2021: 419.28 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 416.64 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 393.00 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 17 Apr 2021, 20:57:11


April 16: 418.37 ppm
April 15: 418.30 ppm
April 14: 418.74 ppm
April 13: Unavailable
April 12: 419.51 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 20 Apr 2021, 22:39:55

The IEA is predicting a 5% INCREASE in global CO2 emissions next year

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Looks like CO2 emissions are set to continue to increase under Biden, just as they did under Trump and Obama.

That means global warming will continue to increase as well.

Of course this is all OK according to the 2015 Paris Climate Accords, where Obama and other world leaders agreed to continue to INCREASE global CO2 emissions.

And a big thanks is also due to Joe Biden, since he was right there in Paris supporting Obama and the fraudulent and worthless Paris climate accords.

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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby JuanP » Wed 21 Apr 2021, 01:10:48

"IEA issues ‘dire warning’ on CO2 emissions as it predicts 5% rise"
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"Global CO2 emissions from energy are seen rising nearly 5 percent this year, suggesting the economic rebound from COVID-19 could be "anything but sustainable" for the climate, the International Energy Agency (IEA) said ­Tuesday.

The IEA's Global Energy Review 2021 predicted carbon dioxide emissions would rise to 33 billion tons this year, up 1.5 billion tons from 2020 levels in the largest single increase in more than a decade."
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 22 Apr 2021, 07:39:10


Week beginning on April 11, 2021: 418.96 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 416.44 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 393.61 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 22 Apr 2021, 07:39:42


April 20: 417.12 ppm
April 19: Unavailable
April 18: 418.11 ppm
April 17: Unavailable
April 16: 418.37 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 29 Apr 2021, 10:52:54


Week beginning on April 18, 2021: 418.20 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 416.24 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 393.63 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 29 Apr 2021, 10:53:40


April 28: 419.75 ppm
April 27: 419.49 ppm
April 26: 420.01 ppm
April 25: Unavailable
April 24: 418.41 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 29 Apr 2021, 10:56:32

This is nothing remarkable, it usually happens around this date of the year. We are now higher than lat years peak so for the next couple months CO2 levels are in new since we invented farming levels in the atmosphere. Last time we were bumping 420 was during the Miocene Epoch.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby JuanP » Mon 31 May 2021, 15:19:24

"Main structure of world's 2nd largest hydropower station to finish on Monday, operations start on July 1"
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"Baihetan Hydropower Station, the world's second largest after the Three Gorges Dam, is expected to have its last reservoir completed on Monday in Southwest China.

The station, with a total installed capacity of 16 million kilowatts, is expected to generate more than 62 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity per year, which would reduce carbon dioxide emissions by about 51.6 million tons, according to experts."

I would have preferred to live in a world in which monstrosities like this dam did not exist, but in a world with 8 billion people, increasing population and consumption, and the consequent CO2 problems this brings, I, unfortunately, consider them an inevitable necessity.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby dissident » Mon 31 May 2021, 21:55:17

The global economy is not serious about dealing with CO2. Instead of transitioning to nuclear power since hydro is limited and so are the boutique solar and wind which are taking forever to scale and do not have rosy life-cycle CO2 emission numbers, we have BAU. The only way humanity will start to move is if it feels enough collective pain. That may well be the norm by 2050. But by then, it will be too late. That is not doom and gloom that is the cumulative CO2 emissions during the next 30 years.

These human CO2 emissions will lock in the release of CH4 and CO2 from the melting cryosphere and the stress on the world's forests and oceans (manifested in the decline of phytoplankton). No humans, including those that lived during the glacial maximum, have experienced the nightmare coming our way in the coming decades and centuries. The scale of the problem is vast and humanity is not able now or any time in the coming centuries to engage in what amounts to terraforming to fix it.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 01 Jun 2021, 22:04:44


April 2021: 419.05 ppm
April 2020: 416.45 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 01 Jun 2021, 22:06:21


Week beginning on May 23, 2021: 418.92 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 417.83 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 395.13 ppm



May 31: 419.90 ppm
May 30: 419.97 ppm
May 29: Unavailable
May 28: 420.65 ppm
May 27: 419.53 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 07 Jun 2021, 14:09:04


May 2021: 419.13 ppm
May 2020: 417.31 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 07 Jun 2021, 14:10:37


Week beginning on May 30, 2021: 419.55 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 417.46 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 394.43 ppm



June 06: 419.76 ppm
June 05: 419.64 ppm
June 04: 419.73 ppm
June 03: 420.12 ppm
June 02: 420.44 ppm

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