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Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Fri 22 Mar 2019, 20:02:43

Things you won't see released in this report:

Five Eyes spying by foreign powers on US citizens
The FISA warrants un-redacted
Grand Jury testimony
Any thing showing Democrat party involvement in getting this witch-hunt rolling
Anything showing the use of Obama's intelligence agencies in spying on Donald Trump

These are the things the Deep State Dems and some Republicans will never want you to see
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 22 Mar 2019, 21:38:52

Cog wrote:According to Fox News, the report recommends no further indictments. If true, the Trump kids are in the clear along with the president with regard to Russia. There might be tax issues still in play with New York courts.

If there is no Russian collusion in the report Cid Yama has a lot of crow to eat.

Wow, so if that's the case that's a LOT of braying for basically nothing from the dems. If that's the case, I can't see that helping them in 2020, even if the super-loony-socialist crowd is kept the hell away from the democratic POTUS nomination.

And suddenly Trump's claims of "they're out to get me" will seem credible.

Again, IF Fox News is correct on this.

But it's certainly time for the dems to put or shut up re Trump and illegalities re the Russians.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Fri 22 Mar 2019, 21:55:49

This conclusion should have been obvious when not a single person was charged with collusion or conspiracy with Russians, to affect the outcome of the election.

What we are left with is tax evasion, perjury, money laundering, etc by Trump associates, that had zero to do with Russians. I told Cid Yama the Russian angle would go nowhere. I'm sure he will move the goal posts again just like CNN is already attempting.
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby dissident » Sat 23 Mar 2019, 10:07:51

This farce wasn't going to deliver anything regardless of all the CNN and degenerate left BS over the last two years. The notion that Trump is an actual Putin stooge is beyond pathetic. Considering that Trump was never accused of being a foreign agent or even having sympathies for foreign "enemy" governments during all of his time in the limelight did he become a stooge in 2016? Seriously? CNN et al. should be sued into oblivion for spreading the lie that there were Austrian bank links between Trump and Putin. This was an obvious fabrication that should never have been reported. America even managed to break the Swiss wall of banking secrecy, so any information on Trump and Austrian banks would have been exposed early on. CNN may as well have reported that Putin handed off wads of cash to Trump in some public park.

As for the meddling itself, it was clear there was none when the story about hacking of election-related computers in several US states turned out to be not what it was insinuated to be. That were no real break-ins and just the 24/7 global script attacks that all internet computers with fixed IPs experience (most originating in China). The DHS actually staged some hacking attacks as a security control measure and these "attacks" were lumped into the Russian hackers BS story. The 80,000 (not 800,000,000) click bait ads on social media that pumped both Hillary and Trump cannot be called meddling and had zero impact. If the US is this soft and paranoid about "meddling" then it should have had these inquisitions every time a presidential election took place for the last 60+ years.
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 23 Mar 2019, 11:33:23

Cog wrote:Things you won't see released in this report:

Five Eyes spying by foreign powers on US citizens
The FISA warrants un-redacted
Grand Jury testimony
Any thing showing Democrat party involvement in getting this witch-hunt rolling
Anything showing the use of Obama's intelligence agencies in spying on Donald Trump

These are the things the Deep State Dems .... will never want you to see


The Obama administration subverted the IRS and the DOJ and the US intelligence agencies and found partisan little minions in those agencies who would gladly harass Rs and spy on the Trump campaign for them.

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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby dissident » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 12:56:03

pstarr wrote:Taibbi: It's Official - 'Russiagate' Is This Generation's WMD

"Worse, in a brutal irony everyone should have seen coming, the press has now handed Trump the mother of campaign issues heading into 2020."


The one and only "gate" is that of Obama using the US machinery of state (FBI, CIA, etc.) to engage in petty politics and to undermine his legitimate opponent (e.g. FISA fraud via the Steele bought and paid for fictional dossier). This makes anything that Nixon did look like a complete and utter joke. It looks like Obama will get away with this abuse of power because too many Americans have been hoodwinked by the fake stream media (CNN, New York Times, etc.) to think that there is a Russiagate. In fact, it has become a cult that does not require any evidence and keeps propagating itself of delusional vapours.

I am hoping that Trump gets a second term just to rub it in to the foaming at the mouth nutbars that are the Democrats. Democrats think they can start a war on Russia and win. They are a menace to humanity.
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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby dissident » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 14:47:39

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03- ... -collusion

Like I said, it has become a cult. Now we will have endless circle-jerk self-affirmation on parade. Not one of these clowns has to deliver any specifics. In the above article, if there is knowledge of collusion then :

1) Prove it instead of bloviating generalities

2) Go to the authorities to report a crime

But then why would any of these bloviators know more than Mueller and his team? Basic thought processes are failing in the US political space to a degree that is breath-taking. Does there have to be a civil war between the Democrats and Republicans (or some fraction that is not aligned with the fake stream media) to resolve the current polarization?

It is hard for me to see when the US went off the rails. Sanity needs to be restored.
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 16:23:39

Barr’s summary letter is out. No collusion with Russia, obstruction of justice investigation inconclusive. Barr to scan report and redact parts he is legally required to keep private then release the remainder.
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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 16:31:52

Its time for the Ds to accept that they were wrong about Trump being a Russian asset who colluded with the Russians in 2016.

Now that Mueller has proven that there was no collusion between the Trump Campaign and the Russian it is time for us put to the past behind us and come together, both Ds and Rs, as Americans.

There is no need to ridicule the idiots who lied about Trump being a Russian agent, or the fools who believed them. They know who they are and hopefully they will have the decency to never mention this silliness again.

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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 18:06:18

It is hilarious watching the left leaning media try to digest that they lost this battle.
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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby dissident » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 18:47:32

Plantagenet wrote:Its time for the Ds to accept that they were wrong about Trump being a Russian asset who colluded with the Russians in 2016.

Now that Mueller has proven that there was no collusion between the Trump Campaign and the Russian it is time for us put to the past behind us and come together, both Ds and Rs, as Americans.

There is no need to ridicule the idiots who lied about Trump being a Russian agent, or the fools who believed them. They know who they are and hopefully they will have the decency to never mention this silliness again.

Cheers!


That would be rational if these saps were rational. They are the ones who are still pushing full steam ahead because they are just so sure that their delusions were the ultimate truth. I suspect that some tin foil hat conspiracy theory about Mueller's failure to confirm this ultimate will emerge. The cult must go on.

How would ignoring these loons make the problem go away? The witch hunt has become a de facto main part of the Democrat platform. And there is actually a reason they will keep pushing. If they admit they are wrong, then Obomber, Killary and assorted other criminals would actually face justice. The Democrats will fight tooth and nail to prevent this. So the witch hunt may morph into other avenues and keep going for the next two years.

Maybe these clowns will calm down if Trump does not get re-elected. But that means capitulation to their insanity.
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby dissident » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 18:50:05

vtsnowedin wrote:It is hilarious watching the left leaning media try to digest that they lost this battle.


Don't be so sure. They will now worry that Obama and Hillary will face the music so some form of the same anti-Trump hysteria will be continued.
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 19:48:34

The DOJ IG has his own report on how this whole fake investigation started. That should be out soon. I would not want my name on those Fisa warrants that were used to spy on the Trump campaign based on the lie of Russian collusion.
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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby Cog » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 19:52:57

Anyone who pushed this investigation, based on this fake Russian collusion, needs their neck stretched for sedition to overthrow a duly elected president.

The Fbi headquarters, let's start with it.
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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby dissident » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 20:18:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS16gUkTvoU

Mueller can't have his cake and eat it too. If there really was a case, then take it to a jury. That it couldn't even get to this stage says there was no case. Mueller is a political hack and not a prosecutor.
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Re: Special Counsel Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 20:40:22

But think about this logically. Four different FISA judges, from 2016-2017 approved wiretaps to spy on the Trump campaign/government based on evidence of Russian collusion. Based on the word of FBI/DOJ personnel that this evidence was verified. After a two year investigation, the Special Counsel found no evidence that Trump or his associates colluded with the Russians.

So where did this collusion evidence come from to take to the FISA judge? Was it simply made up like the Steele dossier? Lots of questions need to be asked of the players involved with the FISA warrants.
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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 20:51:13

Cog wrote:Anyone who pushed this investigation, based on this fake Russian collusion, needs their neck stretched for sedition to overthrow a duly elected president.

The Fbi headquarters, let's start with it.


Trump has already replaced the FBI director, and the other rotten apples have mostly been forced to resign. The Obamaites are also mostly gone from the DOJ. Same thing at the CIA---Brennan was a fanatical Obamaite and violated the law by having the CIA spy on the Trump Campaign but he's gone now.

It would be nice if these people were prosecuted, but the Hillary farce and now the Mueller farce shows that DC is incapable of prosecuting Ds these days, so this is probably as good as its going to get.

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Re: The Mueller "investigation" is over.

Unread postby Pops » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 21:14:59

Great.
I was sure the russians did it, turns out we screwed ourselves.
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