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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 08 Sep 2024, 16:56:18

theluckycountry wrote:You know what the problem is adam, you're a frog in a pot of hot water and you don't realize the danger you are in.

I am well aware of the perils of the world Lucky, just as I am well aware, and familiar with, doomsayers like you who have been going on about it for 3 decades now.

How about you explain to us how your take on the doom today is different than the same reasons used to proclaim the same doom the next day/week/year 30 years ago?

Because I haven't noticed much original from you. Its all buy gold, markets stink, peak oil (again), people are bad, America is awful, etc etc.

Like a broken record of greatest doomer hits, and I'm not sure you even know you are repeating everyone elses line...decades old now.

So...why is your repetition of these recycled ideas different today, then they were back then?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 12 Sep 2024, 17:23:09

Springfield, OH has entered the media spotlight in recent weeks in large part due to the massive influx of Haitian aliens pouring into the town through Biden Administration relocation programs. A quiet, low-lying city, Springfield's native born population of 60,000 has been overwhelmed by over 20,000 such migrants shipped to the area in the span of a couple years. The cultural shock for the locals has been extensive.

Even the African Americans can't take it anymore.
https://nypost.com/2024/09/09/us-news/a ... ield-ohio/
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 18 Sep 2024, 12:33:11

Group of migrants sends list of demands to Denver’s mayor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qjmW8XVZV0

And rightly so. It's about time the residents of Denver stepped up to the plate and started providing for these poor refugees. Remember your duty!


Denver’s new immigration plan, explained
Sarah Plastino: Our system previously was very financially unsustainable. At our height, we were housing over 5,000 people in hotel rooms. That was on track to be over 10% of the city’s budget. Any unbudgeted money we spent had to be cut elsewhere. We needed to get a handle on the scope of our services and intentionally work to integrate the folks who are settling into Denver.

People ineligible for the Asylum Seekers Program are immediately eligible to apply for a work permit, and we have ongoing clinics for those folks to apply for their work permits for free. Families also have access to up to $4,500 of rental assistance funds through the state.
https://www.hcn.org/articles/denvers-ne ... explained/

I think homeowners with spare rooms should be mandated to take in refugees. Far too much selfishness in Denver!
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 18 Sep 2024, 13:08:57

theluckycountry wrote:Group of migrants sends list of demands to Denver’s mayor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qjmW8XVZV0
And rightly so. It's about time the residents of Denver stepped up to the plate and started providing for these poor refugees. Remember your duty!

Interesting. Obivously you don't know much about American migrant problems, particularly in the Denver area. The city has been lambasted for helping them too much, and "demands" are quite amusing when all they are asking for is some expediated social services....which quite a few have been getting already without pretending to "demand" anything.

The real issue locally has been the panhandling taking place at quite a few major intersections on big interchanges, and the budget required to be sacrificed elsewhere to provide the central and south Americans with basic services.

The camp referenced wasn't even one of the problem ones...apparently foreigners don't even know where to look to find real Denver issues. Maybe because being uneducated is detrimental to them trying to pretend to be 'marts and all!

Great user name by the way.
SIgnifying how uneducated thumbsuckers managed to get ahead with DUMB luck....just like Lucky.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 22 Sep 2024, 01:18:33

You really need to get out of Denver adam boy, but "She who must be obeyed" would never stand for it would she? Terrible to be a man cowered by a woman, having to go along with all those emotional decisions. I know another bloke like you on the Gold Coast, huge house on the hill, because 'she' has to impress her friends. She in the brand new car, he in the 15 yo one. He'd like to move out into the mountains too but "She" would never stand for it. leave all her friends and the shopping on the Coast? Never.

I can see now why so many American men are having their genitals removed and becoming women. It's a power grab!
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 22 Sep 2024, 14:00:26

theluckycountry wrote:You really need to get out of Denver adam boy, but "She who must be obeyed" would never stand for it would she? Terrible to be a man cowered by a woman, having to go along with all those emotional decisions.

Cowered in this context is used as a denigrating term, used to pretend that having a wife as a partner is somehow not a perspective allowed if one is a manly man and neonazi.

I think of it more as a collaboration with a partner resulting in an outstanding quality of life. You of course are free to continue representing the neanderthal pea brained he-man mindset all you'd like.

theluckycountry wrote: I know another bloke like you on the Gold Coast, huge house on the hill, because 'she' has to impress her friends. She in the brand new car, he in the 15 yo one.

Are you really this shallow? My wife required a house (that just happened to be on a hill) close enough to work so I could come home and have lunch with the family before they moved on to full day school. She required frugality so she didn't have to be a working mom in order to do little league and boy and girl scouts and ran the PTA for a couple years and chilly cook offs and all the normal stuff that parents can participate in before they graduate high school. She required upon their graduation that we both participate in paying for the colleges of their choice to minimize their debt as young working adults. She required we be good parents.

The proof is in the pudding. Both my children graduated with multiple college degrees, my daughter bought her first house in the most expensive non-coastal city in the US before she was 25, both of them ride motorcycles and do it well.

What we did had nothing to do with impressing anyone, let alone narcissistic neonazis.

theluckycountry wrote: He'd like to move out into the mountains too but "She" would never stand for it. leave all her friends and the shopping on the Coast? Never.

Interesting friends you have. Why am I not surprised you make your friends sound as vapid as you?
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 23 Sep 2024, 16:10:06

I was thinking about the Gilligans Island TV show from the 1970's and it came to me that the cast were not some random pick of characters but that each one represented a component of the American population.
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started from this tropic port,
aboard this tiny ship.
The mate was a mighty sailin' man,
the Skipper brave and sure,
five passengers set sail that day,
for a three hour tour,
a three hour tour.


Gilligan in the show represents the US political caste, bumbling fools that take center stage and pretend to know everything but invariably cock up everything they touch. From the President down to the local school board members, self-seeking, aggrandized idiots (aggrandized: enhance the reputation of (someone) beyond what is justified by the facts)
The Skipper, Here we have the Fat Cat corporate class. These are the true Captains of the USS Experiment. The Gilligan's do their bidding.

The Millionaire and his wife? Speaks for itself doesn't it. The parasite class in America that live off other people's hard work, when did you ever see Thurston or his wife with a shovel in their hands. A movie star! She represents all the Actors and sports heroes, musicians and overpaid "DJs". In these latter years the influencer class too. All of them having one function, to distract the working class from the drudgery of their lives. Each one typically a narcissist obsessed with their image, their looks. These people are entertainment, they add nothing to society, the money spent on them is wasted.

Then we round out the cast with the professor and Mary Ann, the scientific class, who no one listens to and whose best efforts Gilligan always manages to destroy. And Mary Ann, she represents middle America, the working classes, always obediently running around baking pies.

Why would the producers of the show look any further than the real world examples right in front of them? Give the people something they can identify with, themselves, and the SS Minnow? That's the nation itself, set sail on the 4th July 1776 on a 300 year cruise. Like the TV show it looks set to end in disaster, that much is obvious now. How do you encapsulate the theme of "Gilligans Island" represented in the episodes? One disaster after another after another after another. All portrayed as comedy. Sound familiar?

Of course other people see the show differently.

From 2001
Gilligan's Island

Jan, 8, 2001

The island is a direct representation of HELL. Nobody on the island wants to be there, yet none are able to leave. Each one of the characters represents one of the 7 deadly sins:

Ginger represents LUST - she wears skimpy outfits, is obsessed with her looks, and is a borderline nymphomaniac.

Mary Ann represents ENVY - she is jealous of Ginger's beauty.

The Professor represents PRIDE - he is an annoying know-it-all.

Mr. Howell represents GREED - no explanation needed.

Mrs. Howell represents SLOTH - she has never lifted a finger to help on any of their escape plans.

The Skipper represents two sins: GLUTTONY - no explanation needed; and ANGER - he violently hits Gilligan on each show.

This leaves Gilligan. Gilligan is the person who put them there. He prevents them from leaving by foiling all of their escape plots. Also, it is HIS Island.

Therefore, Gilligan is SATAN.

Crazy? He does wear red in every episode.

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:lol: Love it.

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 23 Sep 2024, 17:12:35

theluckycountry wrote:I was thinking about the Gilligans Island TV show from the 1970's and it came to me that the cast were not some random pick of characters but that each one represented a component of the American population.


A) It figures that you are fascinated with the equivalent of a non-animated cartoon.
B) It figures that someone who has never even claimed to know an American, let alone visited or lived here, would extrapolate their neonazi mindset to others
C) It figures that those who fit categories A) and B) when combined with an absolute lack of formal education would confuse their puerial opinion with anything resembling the reality.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 24 Sep 2024, 03:04:22

San Fran Cops Dress Up As Inflatable Chicken To Catch Speeding Drivers

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San Francisco police are donning inflatable chicken suits to catch drivers speeding through crosswalks. SFGate first reported on officer Lt. Jonathan Ozol in costume at a crosswalk on Alemany Boulevard, where Capt. Amy Hurwitz said the goal is to get drivers to yield to pedestrians. Some drivers didn't seem to care and failed to yield to the giant inflatable chicken, according to Fox News. Imagine that.


So the citizenry consumers ignore an officer in uniform but are expected to yield to a chicken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b85Dw0R4ipg

Oh I love this one, totally ties in with Gilligans Island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W1jMPsiw2s
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