[Outcast_Searcher]

I reloaded the page and stopped the loading the moment the text appeared; that stopped the popup from loading and I could read the article without problems. I have been doing this on a number of different websites for years. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The problem is getting worse. There are a lot of sites I no longer visit because their ads became too annoying.

That's a good trick, another is to use firefox 'reader view' it's an addon that eliminates all web formatting, and ads, and gives you a classic book view. Another is the 'toggle javascript' and another way is to use an archive site like this one.
https://archive.ph/

Here is the page I posted from that archive site
https://archive.ph/ACCl0

Just remember to use the second box, the search box, not the archive one at the top of the page.

Thanks for the tips/suggestions. It's getting to the point that it's nice to be able to fight back without investing scores of hours learning about html et al.

I use Firefox on Linux but hadn't even thought about of it on Windows for years, as I've been happy with Chrome.

[Armageddon]

Was reading some of the early posts in the thread. Damn, we were spot on.

[theluckycountry]

Hello,

It seems fairly obvious to me that Covid 19 is a smokescreen to preserve the remaining oil supplies and replace the existing financial system/social structure, to prevent western society from collapsing.

Financially speaking, the elephant in the room as far as social control is all the wealth the people of the globe "Think" they have. 40, 50, 60 years of retirement savings, Untold Trillions, all locked away in digital accounts, invested in companies and government bonds that are overinflated at best, or worthless in many cases. The basic equation was [ We will pay you all this back out of our future profits ] but there won't be any profits for most companies in the future because they are all based on debt growth or totally dependent on cheap oil.

A reset, a collapse in the markets worldwide, will remove all these liabilities from the books and allow the system to begin again, as the western capitalist system has, 5 or 6 times over the last 400 years. The Great Depression was the last but that was only a partial reset, the cheap oil allowed the system to re-inflate and then go on steroids after 1970. All this is obvious to the sentient observer, to deny it is to say we can all sit on our bums and live lavish lifestyles while "someone else" provides all the goods and energy we want to consume.

[Armageddon]

NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant has said this morning:

“We will see what contact tracing looks like in the NEW WORLD ORDER”!



They don’t hide it any more

[Outcast_Searcher]

NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant has said this morning:

“We will see what contact tracing looks like in the NEW WORLD ORDER”!



They don’t hide it any more

Can't you cite things so they can be seen in context, like say, an adult?

Given your lack of credibility re all sorts of claims you've made here for years and years, any such comment you make can't be trusted by people that care about veracity instead of spreading the usual FUD and nonsense.

So, I do a quick check, and that's what was said, BUT context matters.

OTOH, raving about conspiracy theories demonstrates zero veracity. For example, this is the second hit I got when searching on "kerry chant new world order" on google:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 17082.html

‘New World Order’: Conspiracy theorists unite as Australian health chief uses term at press conference

Dr Kerry Chant appeared to use the phrase innocently, referring to the post-Covid world we live in

And the point that I was going to make is that I've been seeing the term "new world order", talking about life in the age of Covid-19, since experts are indicating more and more that it will likely become endemic, given the relative lack of vaccination globally is far from enough to stop it.

But I know, you have vapid BS to sell, as per usual.

And before you try to claim that there is no conspiracy theory mongering going on, googling "covid new world order" certainly gives a plethora of hits discussing how popular that consipracy (by the usual suspects) is. So there's that in the real world.

Your ilk could educate yourself a bit starting perhaps here:

https://www.amazon.com/COVID-19-Conspir ... 1476684677

but I know how likely that is.

So bray on. I know you will.

[Newfie]

Outcast,

Tone it down. You having a bad day???

[AdamB]

So be it COVID, climate disasters, NWO, vax scams, carbon caps, or any number of countless events, the overarching theme is one of degrowth and artifical demand destruction as the new imperative and directive as we have finally in the first time of all human history of mankind passed the critical threshold of the point of inflection of the irreversible rubicon crossing into the final decline/ Peak Everything as human society is for the first time in its recorded history unable to further prop up the pyramid scheme by the continued timely bootstrapping of new energy sources (exponentially more dense) etc etc etc and in the longest arc of history we have just past the global maximum peak of all peaks, thereby ushering in the new reality of forever sliding down the figurative slope of oludvia gorge as we (on planet earth the 3rd isolated rock/sphere from the sun) regress back to the same fate as/of the inhabitants of Easter Island in the late stages.....

When doing nonsense conspiratorial rants, you could at least break the crap up into digestable sentences. In order to maintain (at the very least) the pretense that you should be taken seriously. Not that your thoughts themselves don't disquality you in that regard, but sock puppets gotta do what sock puppets gotta do.

[theluckycountry]

NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant has said this morning:

“We will see what contact tracing looks like in the NEW WORLD ORDER”!



They don’t hide it any more

No, and I doubt that politician would have said that without sanction. The NWO has been behind the curtain for decades but now it's the time to bring it out. The french people are giving up their fight against the Vaxx passport, it's there to stay it looks.

[adonis]

Some commenters thinks the great reset is all about depopulation or saving the rich from the ravages of peak oil but I will tell you my opinion of what it is. The pandemic was created by a concerned group of people who feared that the world had limits to growth and was heading to disaster, they figured that capitalism could be replaced with socialism and the world could live happily ever after forever and ever. They planned for the great reset to begin or announce to the world the great reset's arrival in the year 2020. The worried group of people were thinking of everybody's survival when discussions began on how best to avert disaster because of limits to growth. That was around the late 1960's when the discussions began.Will the great reset actually occur ? I believe it will so expect many changes to come from now on.

[AdamB]

The pandemic was created by a concerned group of people who feared that the world had limits to growth and was heading to disaster, they figured that capitalism could be replaced with socialism and the world could live happily ever after forever and ever.

I think that new posters who right off jump into the buffet of whack-a-doodle conspiracy nonsense aren't 1) near as new as they appear and 2) rely far too heavily on the onlookers being the same brand of whack-a-doodle as they are.

Will the great reset actually occur ? I believe it will so expect many changes to come from now on.

Yes. We know. Peak oil was claimed to have done the same thing 16 years ago. Does your brand of particular whack-a-doodle date back that far, or farther?

[adonis]

Thank you Adam for your kind words and yes i have been reading about peak oil and in general many different conspiracy theories since 1999. After all this reading i probably came to the conclusion around 2016 that something big was planned for 2020 by the powers that be and it may be a good thing so really we should just accept whats coming as socialism may be our only hope to ensure the continuity of the human race on planet earth. We owe it to the next generation that we are all on board with the great reset .

[Armageddon]

They actually don't care if you get the vaccine. The great reset requires the collapse of the world economic system so they can replace it with their total control.

They knew people would see the lies about the vaccine and would not submit. Then they use this to force employers to shut down businesses when people refuse the vaccine and lose their jobs.

[adonis]

The vaccine is the main part of the plan so if people refuse the vaccine they will get a short reprieve until they are co-erced to take the vaccine. WHY is the vaccine so important ? For the answer to that we need to go to the french lily pond riddle . This should help you to understand what they are planning.

[AdamB]

Thank you Adam for your kind words and yes i have been reading about peak oil and in general many different conspiracy theories since 1999.

You are welcome, and yes, it is obvious. Any reason you limit your reading to this time frame, and don't choose to understand the long history of claims without basis, claims with basis that never come to fruition, and WHY those who came before didn't get it any more corrct then, most recently, peak oilers, Mayan calendar loonies, Harold Camping believers, gold bugs, anti-fiat currency and fractional reserve banking amateurs, etc etc?

After all this reading i probably came to the conclusion around 2016 that something big was planned for 2020 by the powers that be and it may be a good thing so really we should just accept whats coming as socialism may be our only hope to ensure the continuity of the human race on planet earth. We owe it to the next generation that we are all on board with the great reset .

Any particular reason that you believe the powers that be have...power...to guide random human events pinballing through time? As just one example, at this very website people made all sorts of claims about how the "plunge protection team" were the only thing keeping the US stock market afloat. And then 2008 arrived, and it became obvious to all that there was no plunge protection team worthy of the name. Worse yet, once that was revealed, the market then began reacting to central government actors in the recovery...again...something that wasn't supposed to happen because 2008 was proclaimed as the end, both in terms of the economy and peak oil. Fiscal stimulus, of the type employed at the time, had been specifically declared to NOT be effective against the onslaught of claimed global peak oil in that year. Yet it was effective, for the economy, and the US went on to become the world's largest producer of oil and gas, dispatching both its prior peaks, and boosting the world to all time new highs as well.

When do you know that the current claims and thoughts are as much a crock as the same ones, done little more than a decade ago?

[AdamB]

The vaccine is the main part of the plan....

What plan? Can you point to the documents or references discussing this plan, BEFORE it was implemented? You see, making stuff up AFTER the fact has always been the trade craft of the looney tunes contingent, but if you've got Presidents, Prime Ministers, cabinet level officials, high ranking government members discussing this Plan while they are right there in real time formulating it, that goes a long way towards validating the idea. Versus it being the usual looney tunes contingent doing so after the fact.

WHY is the vaccine so important ? For the answer to that we need to go to the french lily pond riddle . This should help you to understand what they are planning.

I find it surprising that you don't know WHY the vaccine is so important. It isn't as though real live scientist types haven't been explaining it for awhile now.

[evilgenius]

Hello,

It seems fairly obvious to me that Covid 19 is a smokescreen to preserve the remaining oil supplies and replace the existing financial system/social structure, to prevent western society from collapsing.

Financially speaking, the elephant in the room as far as social control is all the wealth the people of the globe "Think" they have. 40, 50, 60 years of retirement savings, Untold Trillions, all locked away in digital accounts, invested in companies and government bonds that are overinflated at best, or worthless in many cases. The basic equation was [ We will pay you all this back out of our future profits ] but there won't be any profits for most companies in the future because they are all based on debt growth or totally dependent on cheap oil.

A reset, a collapse in the markets worldwide, will remove all these liabilities from the books and allow the system to begin again, as the western capitalist system has, 5 or 6 times over the last 400 years. The Great Depression was the last but that was only a partial reset, the cheap oil allowed the system to re-inflate and then go on steroids after 1970. All this is obvious to the sentient observer, to deny it is to say we can all sit on our bums and live lavish lifestyles while "someone else" provides all the goods and energy we want to consume.

Are you suggesting something like Social Darwinism, the role that creative destruction is supposed to have in that process? Are you aware that, very much like eugenics, that comes with built in biases that are likely to tilt you toward picking certain winners and losers? Can you see the built in tension with the indolent class? They won't accept starving to death, let alone a cut back on the cheap things that allow them to get through life. They are, however, manipulable. We watch marketers successfully reach out to them every day!

[Newfie]

those that get out fast and
convert to real hard assets and tangible resources first will be much better off than those left
holding fiat currency or digital cryptocoins

Lots to wade through in those posts. This particular bit of rant caught my eye and is very relevant to my immediate situation.

We are retired and have a 3 legged stool of income.
Social security
Retirement investments
A small rental property

This rental property has been our “ tangible resource” part of the investment scheme. The problem is twofold; it is NOT passive and there seems to be a housing bubble developing.

We are seriously considering selling the rental because it requires too much hands on management. And we don’t want to be tied into center city Philadelphia. But also it is a seller market, who knows when this housing bubble may break. At 70 years of age it makes no sense to try to ride out a down market. We bought in a slump 30 years and have done well with appreciation. Time to cash out.

But, where to put the money that will both be safe and return a decent profit??? That is the question.

I like the idea of “tangible assets” but finding some that throw off some income seems a bit tricky.

It is a “hood problem” to have, but a problem none the less.

It is one thing to discuss these matters in theory, but when it comes to the hard reality of actual commitments and decisions and investments it is, to me, very foggy.

[vtsnowedin]

The Acronym is TINA (There- Is -No- Alternative) meaning nothing returns as well as the stock market or it's indexes. Gold And silver are flat, bonds yield less then inflation and Real estate has the problems you are well aware of.
You might consider a four way even split between the DOW ,the S&P, the NASDAQ, index funds and physical gold if you have a secure place to store it at reasonable fees.

[Newfie]

VT,
Thats sort of where I keep coming to. Poking around at REITS. No place to store physical gold, which in the past had been confiscated.

Yet, we are aware that if there is a serious problem most people will be hurting worse than us. An ebbing tide lowers all ships, we have a bit bigger than average ship. Some solace in that.

Fun, fun, fun.

[theluckycountry]

But, where to put the money that will both be safe and return a decent profit??? That is the question.

I like the idea of “tangible assets” but finding some that throw off some income seems a bit tricky.

In 2004 it was a no brainer for me. Gold and silver. Both of which have appreciated over 500% in less than two decades. I can't think of another time tested investment that has done that? A week ago I bought a lot more silver, something I should have done 2 or 3 years ago but that's ok, there is no slacking in demand for the metal both from industry and private investors.

Of course the average person has to get over their distrust of it first. A distrust born of media slander for the most part. Posters on forums like this told me I was an idiot in 2005 and they will probably say so again now but I couldn't care less what people think, my assets have gone up hugely, much more than inflation, and they are completely Liquid and also "Off the books".