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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby aadbrd » Sun 27 Dec 2020, 17:28:04

AdamB wrote:All evidence to the contrary notwithstanding?


I wouldn't extrapolate the future based on the dysfunctional leadership of Trump which is set to expire in only a few weeks time. I mean, I'm not discounting the dysfunctionality of the public themselves in all this, which will remain in a post-Trump era, but if there is anything to be had from of top-down then it's worth seeing what Biden does.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 27 Dec 2020, 17:34:39

aadbrd wrote:
AdamB wrote:All evidence to the contrary notwithstanding?


I wouldn't extrapolate the future based on the dysfunctional leadership of Trump which is set to expire in only a few weeks time.


Neither would I. Which is why I choose an Obama era "hopes and dreams" episode as my example.

aadbrd wrote: I mean, I'm not discounting the dysfunctionality of the public themselves in all this, which will remain in a post-Trump era, but if there is anything to be had from of top-down then it's worth seeing what Biden does.


It is always worth seeing what a new political leader will do. But as far as a effective global response from old leaders or future ones....someone remind me...how much has atmospheric CO2 dropped since COP21 was enacted?
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby aadbrd » Mon 28 Dec 2020, 01:42:56

Armageddon wrote:the DEATH of WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
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That’s always been their plan


Is this the level of nuanced technical analysis I am to expect here?
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 29 Dec 2020, 16:38:26

aadbrd wrote:
Armageddon wrote:the DEATH of WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
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That’s always been their plan


Is this the level of nuanced technical analysis I am to expect here?


From Armie? Absolutely. He has been rinsing and recycling his end of the world claims since 2005 or so. Must have worked his way through 4 or 5 cycles of it by now. Each time the world doesn't end, he does a "yeah...BUT IT'LL HAPPEN TOMORROW INSTEAD!!". He's got at least 4 or 5 of these cycles under his belt at this point. And he isn't even the worst of the lot. Don't worry, there are folks here with stuff between their ears still working, you just need to separate the wheat from the chaff a little first.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby rangerone314 » Wed 30 Dec 2020, 17:25:39

The problem with predicting when a civilization collapse is that even when its collapse is pretty obvious and inevitable, the process can take a while. I think the writing was definitely on the wall for Rome around 410 AD. Rome got sacked once, and later that same year the Roman Empire declared that Britain was on its own. I think it was like 471 AD that the Western Roman Empire collapsed for good.

61 years... that's easily most human lifetimes back then. I could try and predict the US will collapse in 2021 or 2022 or 2023 and it could well collapse in 2050. Or I could collapse in 2050, and a black swan event causes it to collapse in March 2021.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby JuanP » Sun 03 Jan 2021, 23:17:47

"Humans of the GREAT RESET: What the future MIGHT look like in 2021 – if the controlling elites have their way"
https://www.rt.com/news/510860-great-re ... edictions/

"With vaccine rollouts underway, humanity looks set to win the fight against the coronavirus. But some elites planning a post-coronavirus ‘Great Reset’ don’t want to go back to normal. Here’s what they have planned instead.
As lockdowns and mask mandates became a part of daily life over the last year, politicians the world over asked their citizenry to accept “The New Normal.” The phrase became ubiquitous, but as vaccines inched closer to deployment, that phrase was replaced with a new one, “The Great Reset,” used to describe the monumental changes to human society needed in a post-coronavirus world.

Unveiled in May by Britain’s Prince Charles and the World Economic Forum’s Klaus Schwab, the ‘Great Reset’ is an ambitious plan to create a more equal, cashless, integrated and sustainable global society. World leaders have seemingly signed up to the plan, with its catchphrase, “Build Back Better” featured prominently in incoming US President Joe Biden’s campaign messaging."

Pretty depressive article on what our dystopian future could be like in the coming decade, and beyond. Covers several aspects of the changes planned. Includes link to WEF video on the subject. The future today looks worse than I ever imagined. I pity the young; their future looks bleak.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby REAL Green » Mon 04 Jan 2021, 07:52:10

The population is getting so dumbed down and gullible this gaslighting is working! The elites desire this outcome which is completely evident by the 4 years of TDS. We can see it with the extreme pandemic response and the surveillance state being created. The WEF is opening talking about it. The Transition Integrity Project openly explained how they were going to deal with this election. The evidence is there and if you disagree you are labeled a conspiracy advocate.

“Baseless Conspiracy Theories” and our Knowledge Crisis.”
https://humanevents.com/2020/12/22/base ... ge-crisis/

“THE FALSE EQUIVALENCE OF EVIDENCE, PROOF, AND TRUTH In the media’s gaslighting about the (il)legitimacy of Election 2020, we can discern one of their most inventive ploys for cultivating this knowledge crisis: the false conflation of evidence, proof, and truth. These are three discrete concepts, but they are increasingly treated as one by the major media outlets. For example, there can be substantial evidence for a claim that is nevertheless unproven; then, there exist truths for which there is neither evidence nor proof. Even more torturous is the fact that there are some things that are proven (with evidence), that are nevertheless false. But the left recognizes none of these distinctions. They falsely maintain that there is “no evidence” for claims of election fraud, when what they mean is that there is no proof that fraud produced a false outcome. Speak—and speak in the knowledge that the only baseless claim is the one that says it is “baseless” to assert the truth that this election can never be construed as free and fair. Needless to say, the erroneous conflation of these concepts is used to undermine claims of truth that are undesirable for the left’s agenda. Their conflation is also used to advance “proofs” for claims that the left would like to be true, despite the fact that they actually only have circumstantial evidence. Consider how Russian Collusion circulated for years as a “proven” truth, even though there existed only the barest, biased indications of its possibility. Consider how one woman’s uncorroborated assertion that she was pinned to a bed 30 years ago by a future Supreme Court nominee—on a date and in a place that she could not recall—was sufficient to upend the entire Constitutionally-mandated process for confirming a justice to the highest court. Similar examples of this rhetorical misdirection by the left are legion. Our knowledge crisis is a deliberately manufactured means to undermine public confidence in a shared sense of what is real, as a means to minimize the prospect of organized opposition to the new order that our elites are working to install. This crisis demands that each of us rely on our own perceptions—perhaps more than we ever have. Doing so takes courage, especially given that saying what you saw (when it undermines the Narrative), ensures you are denigrated as a sub-rational lunatic who traffics in “baseless conspiracy theories.” Let the talking heads talk. But the concerns about the legitimacy of this election are anything but baseless. Evidence abounds. They are counting that our cowardice and shame will be sufficient to make us deny those facts. If we will not testify to that evidence openly, then it might as well not exist. We cannot be cowards and we can’t be ashamed. Speak—and speak in the knowledge that the only baseless claim is the one that says it is “baseless” to assert the truth that this election can never be construed as free and fair.”
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 04 Jan 2021, 10:15:42

prmtyms wrote:Thanks for sharing this informative post. Keep up the good work.


prmtyms;
Welcome aboard.

It would be good to have some Indian perspective here.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby Pops » Tue 05 Jan 2021, 10:50:15

JuanP wrote:"Humans of the GREAT RESET: What the future MIGHT look like in 2021 – if the controlling elites have their way"

Really? The russian state funded propaganda channel is where you get your news?
No wonder you're depressed.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby NovaVeles » Fri 12 Feb 2021, 19:18:14

Pops wrote:Really? The russian state funded propaganda channel is where you get your news?
No wonder you're depressed.


Not OP but I will put in my 2 cents. RT is a very interesting place. Firstly, it is absolutely propaganda but they do it in the most interesting way. By finding people in the US that are already on board with the desired agenda and then giving them a platform to express these points of view, they can both seem to appear legitimate while also achieving their goals.

I like their alternative point of view at times (not when they are pushing anti 5G nonsense) but I treat it more like entertainment than news.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby aadbrd » Fri 12 Feb 2021, 19:24:05

NovaVeles wrote:By finding people in the US that are already on board with the desired agenda and then giving them a platform to express these points of view


And you'd think they'd know they're being used but such people are so full of self-loathing of their country that they do it anyway.
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Re: Peak Oil - 2020 fore sight

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 13 Feb 2021, 15:36:55

The Great Reset: What is all the fuss about?

The great reset is an initiative taken by the World Economic Forum to reset the world economy for a sustainable and climate conscious growth. The Great Reset was the name of the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF) that was held in June 2020.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby Pops » Mon 15 Feb 2021, 12:09:08

NovaVeles wrote:
Pops wrote:Really? The russian state funded propaganda channel is where you get your news?
No wonder you're depressed.


Not OP but I will put in my 2 cents. RT is a very interesting place. Firstly, it is absolutely propaganda but they do it in the most interesting way. By finding people in the US that are already on board with the desired agenda and then giving them a platform to express these points of view, they can both seem to appear legitimate while also achieving their goals.

I like their alternative point of view at times (not when they are pushing anti 5G nonsense) but I treat it more like entertainment than news.

Finding out what is going on is really hard. I've gone through periods where I read mostly far left stuff: Jacobin, World Socialist, TPM, truth-dig. And while I agree with some of the politics, it can be very misleading because you can't know what they don't talk about even though you know they don't talk about the "cons" of the left much.
That is even true with the best, middle road original reporting at Reuters, AP, BBC, NPR. They are mostly reliable in what they report, the question is what do they report?

Over the last few years I have become very reluctant to listen to the most left sources, they rile me up and make me believe some left wing fantasy about how this or that is going to happen or that some R is going to save the D's bacon. And except for McCain it never happens — well Paul has thrown a kink in the Republicans plans here and there but that hardly counts.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby DesuMaiden » Sun 14 Mar 2021, 08:53:47

Basically, you guys are saying covid-19 is a scam? Yep, I always suspected that.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby OutcastPhilosopher » Sun 14 Mar 2021, 09:40:35

DesuMaiden wrote:Basically, you guys are saying covid-19 is a scam? Yep, I always suspected that.



Dude, have you been living under a rock?

I've been saying it was a scam since March 2020 when celebrities came out saying they had it.

The whole thing is a scamdemic.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby DesuMaiden » Sun 14 Mar 2021, 18:30:21

OutcastPhilosopher wrote:
DesuMaiden wrote:Basically, you guys are saying covid-19 is a scam? Yep, I always suspected that.



Dude, have you been living under a rock?

I've been saying it was a scam since March 2020 when celebrities came out saying they had it.

The whole thing is a scamdemic.

I recall reading a quote a few months ago on Youtube about how covid-19 is basically another ploy used by the elite to hoodwink people. It basically goes by the premise of "covid-19 is just the common flu rebranded as a new, deadly pandemic". I didn't believe it until recently. This just shows the absurd level of disinformation the elite engage in, in order to control the masses.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby aadbrd » Mon 15 Mar 2021, 13:28:16

rangerone314 wrote:61 years... that's easily most human lifetimes back then. I could try and predict the US will collapse in 2021 or 2022 or 2023 and it could well collapse in 2050. Or I could collapse in 2050, and a black swan event causes it to collapse in March 2021.


People seek instant gratification. The short attention spans of people these days and the ephemeral nature of online presence conspires to encourage short-term predictions. There's no payback in laying down a prediction for an event 10+ years in the future when the site you posted on may not even be online anymore. It would be like leaving a message in a bottle in the hopes it washed up on the shore 100 years later. I'm surprised this forum has been around as long as it has as it is, with what seems like one continuous archive.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby DesuMaiden » Mon 12 Apr 2021, 17:06:09

Dude, I find it ironic that most people deny that human beings will eventually go extinct when it is a fact that all species will eventually go extinct. And our species' time on Earth is coming to an end soon. Coachroaches and rats will inherit the Earth once we go extinct, and then they will evolve to take over the ecological niches that were once occupied by the megafauna we wiped out (like elephants, tigers and rhinoceroes). The human species' is gonna go extinct soon, and no techno fixes will save us from the problems we've created.
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Re: Peak Oil > Covid 19 > Great Reset

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 12 Apr 2021, 18:30:42

REAL Green wrote:The population is getting so dumbed down and gullible this gaslighting is working!


Gaslighting has been working since the invention of religion. Humans are more advanced now, but just as gullible to being sold a pig in a poke as ever, except now it is just easier to do in mass, and can be sold without a lifetime of torturous repetition during Sunday mornings and such. Just let the information source be Facebook.
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