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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby FamousDrScanlon » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:56 am

sparky says,
"but this site is totally loosing focus of what its core purpose is"


It's core purpose is to generate ad revenue. The owners could care less if y'all discuss shale or soccer.

"Yep. Bears stop eating blueberries during the salmon run."


Ya, about that.....

Alaskan grizzly bears choose berries over salmon — thanks to climate change, study finds

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation ... 82367.html

Everything is changing - time for new analogies.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby REAL Green » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:53 pm

:cry:
FamousDrScanlon wrote:sparky says,


This personality "FamousDrScanlon" has been determined elsewhere to be linked to JuanP. It is disturbing this behavior is drifting over to the moderated side.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby Newfie » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:42 pm

Elsewhere gCaptain has is maintaining a forum for their own use.

The Owner here writes a very good analysis of why that forum is valuable and why he maintains it even though its a pain in the ass and expensive.

https://gcaptain.com/how-maritime-artic ... d-written/
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby evilgenius » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:38 pm

No way this site should be shut down. Half the things I say here would be deleted from any other place I post. I don't have a habit of saying things that ought to be deleted. It's that those other places have ways of thinking into which my thoughts are dangerous. This is a great place to post new ideas and to talk about already existing ones. Maybe there is some looking down at others, but not nearly enough to get people removed.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby careinke » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:45 pm

evilgenius wrote:No way this site should be shut down. Half the things I say here would be deleted from any other place I post. I don't have a habit of saying things that ought to be deleted. It's that those other places have ways of thinking into which my thoughts are dangerous. This is a great place to post new ideas and to talk about already existing ones. Maybe there is some looking down at others, but not nearly enough to get people removed.


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I hope my grandchildren uncover this site one day after I'm gone. I wonder how hard they will laugh at my ideas. :lol:
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby Tanada » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:32 pm

Good news, I exchanged messages with the site owner today and the site will remain open for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby AdamB » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:35 am

Tanada wrote:Good news, I exchanged messages with the site owner today and the site will remain open for the foreseeable future.


Was there the actual possibility that it wouldn't?
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:42 am

Tanada wrote:Good news, I exchanged messages with the site owner today and the site will remain open for the foreseeable future.


That is good news. THANKS!
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby REAL Green » Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:48 am

Tanada wrote:Good news, I exchanged messages with the site owner today and the site will remain open for the foreseeable future.


I wish the ownership would consider some changes on the news side. A minimum of auto moderation over there would increase the sanity slightly. ID theft and socks are rampant there and this discourages participation. One individual is responsible. It is my feeling many of those attracted to this site start with the news side then move over to the moderated side.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby Newfie » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:30 pm

Wonder if it would help to set up a NEWS section (not the existing thread) where we would, or could, start a thread on a Front Page News item. We could do that now, maybe if we did it proactively, with a link as the first post on the unmoderated side, it would bring more folks over.

Hard for me to imagine the work required to moderate the open side. It would be like stepping into a nasty divorce between a swingers group. Who did what, and with what, and to whom? 8O
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby REAL Green » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:42 pm

Newfie wrote:Wonder if it would help to set up a NEWS section (not the existing thread) where we would, or could, start a thread on a Front Page News item. We could do that now, maybe if we did it proactively, with a link as the first post on the unmoderated side, it would bring more folks over.


Good idea Newf.

In regards to the news side unmoderated forum, I recommend closing it down mainly because it is an embracement to the great conversations on this side of the forum. Most of the comments there are ugly with no intellectual content. Why have that sort of dirt right bellow this forum distracting from the great comments on this side!!
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby Tanada » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:23 pm

REAL Green wrote:
Tanada wrote:Good news, I exchanged messages with the site owner today and the site will remain open for the foreseeable future.


I wish the ownership would consider some changes on the news side. A minimum of auto moderation over there would increase the sanity slightly. ID theft and socks are rampant there and this discourages participation. One individual is responsible. It is my feeling many of those attracted to this site start with the news side then move over to the moderated side.


Way back in 2004 when this site opened to the public there was a volunteer news page moderator. She left back around 2009 and nobody ever turned up both willing and able, not to mention trustworthy, to replace her, and the front page has been unmoderated since then.

The fact that moderators and staff have always been unpaid volunteers has put a limit on how attractive the headaches of moderating can be tolerated. That is the burden of keeping the site free for the members, the vast majority of whom are lurkers.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby REAL Green » Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:20 pm

Tanada wrote:The fact that moderators and staff have always been unpaid volunteers has put a limit on how attractive the headaches of moderating can be tolerated. That is the burden of keeping the site free for the members, the vast majority of whom are lurkers.


I am wondering if it might be better for site traffic and exposure if the front page became an extension of the members only forum. IOW members could do their traditional commenting as is the case now plus there would be the front page with the news topics where "members only" could comment. I say this because the current front page is being inhabited by squatters not offering any contribution. It is more a place they can feed their desire to broadcast their agenda that is all to often off topic. So what I am proposing is a news page comment section for members only thereby enhancing the topics. I imagine sombody is spending time researching topics for the news page. That effort should result in some quality contributions in the comment part of the news section.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby DesuMaiden » Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:47 pm

Please ignore the OP. He is probably a shill trying to spread disinformation to give the public a false sense of hope. False hope of how peak oil won't cause industrial civilization to collapse.
History repeats itself. Just everytime with different characters and players.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby AdamB » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:34 am

DesuMaiden wrote:Please ignore the OP. He is probably a shill trying to spread disinformation to give the public a false sense of hope. False hope of how peak oil won't cause industrial civilization to collapse.


Did the peak oils claimed cause industrial civilization to collapse? You see any collapse, after the peak oil claims in this century? 2005, 2006, 2008, 2015, and 2018? Yeah..me neither.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:09 pm

Peak oil will be admitted within a few months.

I still like to read here, it would be sad if it shut down.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby StarvingLion » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:45 pm

Rod_Cloutier wrote:Peak oil will be admitted within a few months.

I still like to read here, it would be sad if it shut down.


The commie EV shit is shutting everything down. Its called a liquidity trap.
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Re: Should this site be shut down?

Unread postby AdamB » Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:41 am

Rod_Cloutier wrote:Peak oil will be admitted within a few months.


Its been admitted all sorts of times since 1990. Hasn't seemed to matter much.

Rod Cloutier wrote:I still like to read here, it would be sad if it shut down.


We just don't talk about all of the old peak oils much, occasionally speculating on the next one or two. There are still plenty of other doomer scenarios to have fun with though.
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