rockdoc123 wrote:I doubt very much Trump is "ignorant". He made tens of millions into a billion, probably has lost and made that much a few times. He runs scads of companies and was able to win the Presidency against all odds. He has put China on its heals (albeit at a cost to the US) which was needed) and has told the UN to go get stuffed (which was also needed). He may come off as someone a bit rough around the edges but don't think that doesn't mean he is extremely sharp and knows what he is doing. His superpower may be that the left woefully underestimates him.
Newfie wrote:Ibon,
So then the D’s are the smart ones?
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evilgenius wrote:Whatever he does that goes too far, you don't get to take that back. That's the only problem with someone who comes off as an enemy of the state in such a way. You'd dismiss him, as quickly as any corporation would its own executives, who acted so willfully outside of what was best for the corporation. But you can't dismiss him so easily, using only half measures. This one is too arrogant for half measures. He doesn't get subtlety, nor innuendo. What have people got left?
Ibon wrote:Newfie wrote:Ibon,
So then the D’s are the smart ones?
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WHy the fuck do you instantly genuflect to the assumption that I exonerate the D's of their own misdeeds?
You are deeply stuck in polarization my friend. Can we not hold two positions at the same time anymore? Holding Trump accountable for his shit independent of all else and .........at the same time we recognize the shortcomings of the D party?
The D party has their own set of dysfunction but it is not anti intellectualism which was the point I was addressing with Asimov's quote.
Can we not just stick to the point without having to drag the D's into the topic.
WTF?
Newfie wrote:evilgenius wrote:Whatever he does that goes too far, you don't get to take that back. That's the only problem with someone who comes off as an enemy of the state in such a way. You'd dismiss him, as quickly as any corporation would its own executives, who acted so willfully outside of what was best for the corporation. But you can't dismiss him so easily, using only half measures. This one is too arrogant for half measures. He doesn't get subtlety, nor innuendo. What have people got left?
Then would also admit that Obama was equally corrupt but he just lied nicer?
Summary execution of an American citizen
Authors rise a raid on a country we are not at war with -Ali is
Lie to the American Public about progress in Afghanistan
Allow the corruption of the DOJ/FBI
IF, and only if, you admit that Obama was equally corrupt and impeachable does your argument carry weight. If not then your argument becomes simply a matter of STYLE.
That's simply not true. Obama, being an ex-president, is as thoroughly removed from office as conviction upon impeachment would be for Trump. You have to limit the potential damage.
People like Trump take nations like the US into war, because they don't think before they speak. Trump is the next thing to insane. He is a solipsistic nightmare. He measures the future prospects of his country according to how low he can get the corresponding representative of a foreign country to bow to him. He offers offense to people we will need to rely upon, probably sooner than later. He is not thinking about the best future for the country, unless that has something to do with rewriting school books, so that he can come off as the best president since sliced cheese.
Cog wrote:People who live in the "intellectual" centers on the east and west coast dismissively refer to the rest of us in fly-over land as ignorant hayseeds who don't know what is best for us. Those of us who do live in fly-over land, resent the implication that we are somehow inferior to the rest of self-declared "intellectual" class and we responded in our deplorable fashion by rejecting your candidate.
Given the preview of the 2020 election so far, I see the Democrat party still has not learned why they lost in 2016.
Cog wrote:Guilty before trial? I hope your law school refunds your tuition because you were surely defrauded. The Senate trial will determine guilt or innocence. The House impeachment articles are an accusation, nothing more.
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