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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Wed 17 Jul 2019, 07:31:07

"To help save the planet, cut back to a hamburger and a half per week"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/health/b ... index.html
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 23 Jul 2019, 21:09:00

1/3 of Swiss are cutting back on meat or going fully veg

https://www.good.is/articles/swiss-steak-no-more

The study shows that 11% of people in Switzerland are vegetarian, 3% Vegan, and 17% are flexitarian. Flexitarians are people who are conscious about their meat consumption, and primarily vegetarian, but will eat meat or fish on rare occasions.

Animal welfare is the most popular reason why Swiss people go vegetarian (78%) with ethics (60%) and the environment (58%) rounding off the top three.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Cog » Wed 24 Jul 2019, 03:39:56

I always suspected there was a high correlation between veganism and socialism and of course that turns out to be true. I am surprised the tree spikers with Earth First and the black clad Antifa brawlers, actually have the energy to commit their more violent acts with a plant based diet but apparently it works out for them. Apparently leftist violence and veganism is somewhat compatible with socialism as a whole. Maybe their violence is just frustration over not being able to eat a cheeseburger. :-D

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... -hand-hand


THE topic of veganism continues to divide the left and promote debate. Often associated with twee liberals and pacifists wheeling their trolleys around the local Waitrose, a narrative has emerged that it is closely associated with a privileged lifestyle.

Elements of the mainstream media and animal agriculture industry are happy to accept and promote this description in an attempt to smear the movement, which has resulted in the true meaning of veganism becoming confused and distorted.

In one of the biggest injustices of our time, an ever-accelerating revolution is being overlooked and shunned even within our own quarters of the radical left.

Vegan activists are tirelessly exposing the internal flaws that capitalism is renowned for. The movement is entirely compatible and indeed moulded on the principles of socialism. Campaigning to take control of a corrupt industry which maximises profit over ordinary lives is a fundamental ethos. Agitating to liberate those who fall victim to an exploitation ladder moulded by economic influence, an everyday practice.

By directly challenging the integrated custom that some lives are more important than others, veganism aligns itself with radical campaigns throughout history.

The most well-known aspect of veganism is the rejection of meat and other animal products. This in itself is a revolutionary act in more ways than is often realised. Most obviously, it highlights that animals are treated as commodities raised and slaughtered for cash.

By refusing to open their wallets to support this industry, vegans aim to kill corrupt profits and encourage consciousness that animals are also living inhabitants of the earth who have as much right to freedom as we do.

However, the rejection of these products has other aims which epitomise socialist values.

Those of us on the radical left publicly agitate against the inequalities of global food distribution. Boycotting the animal agriculture industry is one of the most stable methods to do this.

To use a compelling example, it takes 13 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. When placed in the context of capitalist society, this statistic becomes a frightening and nauseating reality. If all the grain currently fed to livestock in Europe was made available for human consumption, it could feed over 800 million people.

In a world where 20 million die of malnutrition, an animal agriculture industry propped up by capitalism has literal blood on its hands. By readily making plant sources reserved for the animal agriculture industry available to humans, world hunger would become history.

While these arguments alone should convince socialists of veganism’s legitimacy, there are many other aspects of the movement which are drawn from radical tendencies.

In one of the most appealing ongoing traits, activists continually enter land owned by farms and corporations to document and film the unethical practices of the industry. This showcases an ongoing element of leftist agitation — abolition of private property.

One of the main principles of socialism is that the land and means of production belong to the people, not to our present occupiers. The animal agriculture industry throws this issue into very public view. Backed by wealthy billionaires and a state police, a small group of capitalists exploit workers and animals on plots of land that should rightfully belong to the ordinary citizen.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Wed 24 Jul 2019, 10:58:05

Ooooh, socialism...the big, bad boogie monster of the far right! :lol: :lol:

Just to point out, there are plenty of conservative vegans. There's a whole facebook page where they frolic and chortle in their charming ways.

https://www.facebook.com/theconservativevegan/
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Cog » Wed 24 Jul 2019, 14:59:45

Those conservative vegans must hide out. Never met one in my circle of conservatives. And that circle is pretty big. Maybe they hide their shame which is possible I suppose.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Wed 24 Jul 2019, 17:01:40

Given your attitude, why the hell would any of them admit to you that they are vegan?

It's part of what's called confirmation bias.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 25 Jul 2019, 19:17:15

Another U.S. fast food chain begins offering a Beyond Meat product, this time in a breakfast sandwich.

Dunkin' Donuts to Add Beyond Meat's Plant-Based Sausage Sandwich to Menu


Dunkin' Brands (DNKN - Get Report) on Wednesday became the latest fast-food chain to jump on board with meatless meat maker Beyond Meat (BYND) , announcing it is rolling out a new plant-based menu option for Manhattan diners looking for a sausage breakfast sandwich without actual sausage.

Starting Wednesday, breakfast sandwich-seeking New Yorkers will be able to sink their teeth into the Beyond Sausage Breakfast Sandwich, available now at participating Dunkin' restaurants in Manhattan with plans for a future national rollout. ...

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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 08 Aug 2019, 05:39:18

Germany: 'Meat Tax' On the Table To Protect the Climate

https://dw.com/en/germany-meat-tax-on-t ... a-49924795

Meat is relatively cheap for consumers in Germany. But that could all be about to change as lawmakers from across the political spectrum back proposals aimed at climate protection and animal welfare.

German politicians from the Social Democrats (SPD) and the Greens on Wednesday proposed raising the value added tax (VAT) on meat to the standard rate of 19%. Currently, meat is taxed at a reduced rate of 7% like most foodstuffs.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 08 Aug 2019, 20:33:26

https://www.ecowatch.com/vegetarian-cli ... belltitem1

Shift to Vegetarian Diets Is Needed to Save the World, Climate Scientists Say in Leaked Report
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 23 Aug 2019, 20:21:15

Deadly Superbug Outbreak in Humans Linked to Antibiotic Spike in Cows

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08 ... e-in-cows/

Use of certain antibiotics in cattle increased 41% just before the outbreak.

A deadly outbreak of multi-drug resistant Salmonella that sickened 225 people across the US beginning in 2018 may have been spurred by a sharp rise in the use of certain antibiotics in cows a year earlier, infectious disease investigators reported this week.

From June 2018 to March of 2019, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention identified an outbreak of Salmonella enterica serotype Newport. The strain was resistant to several antibiotics, most notably azithromycin—a recommended treatment for Salmonella enterica infections. Before the outbreak, azithromycin-resistance in this germ was exceedingly rare. In fact, it was only first seen in the US in 2016.

... In a report published August 23 by the CDC, the investigators note that just a year earlier, the Food and Drug Administration recorded a spike in the use of antibiotics called macrolides by cattle farmers. From 2016 to 2017, cattle farmers increased their use of macrolide antibiotics by 41%. Macrolides are a class of antibiotics that includes azithromycin. Because antibiotics within a class work to kill bacteria in similar ways, bacterial resistance to one drug in a class could lead to resistance to other drugs in the same class.

The investigators suggest that the surge in macrolide use could have encouraged the rise and spread of the azithromycin-resistant Newport strain.

“Because use of antibiotics in livestock can cause selection of resistant strains, the reported 41% rise in macrolide use in US cattle from 2016 to 2017 might have accelerated carriage of the outbreak strain among US cattle,” they wrote.


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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 29 Aug 2019, 17:08:50

Amazon wildfires illustrate dangers of deforestation for meat production

https://blog.humanesociety.org/2019/08/ ... dhome-page

As the world looks on in horror at images of Brazil’s Amazon rainforest engulfed in flames, many are asking why this important ecosystem is on fire, and what we can do to put out the flames once and for all. The situation is complex but there is one simple action we can take: we need to dramatically cut our meat consumption.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Yonnipun » Wed 04 Sep 2019, 17:15:52

I was getting a little bit worried about the iron overload from eating a lot of meat so I went and donated blood last week. Anyone else here who donates blood partly because it allows you to eat more meat?
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Newfie » Wed 04 Sep 2019, 17:18:03

They won’t take mine 1) I spend too much time out of country 2) I’m too old.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Newfie » Wed 04 Sep 2019, 17:22:19

Calimari!

Apparently squid reproduces then dies, and washes up ashore in good order if you are quick enough.

I picked up more than we can eat in the 3 weeks we have left here. Even the seagulls and dogs were full.

Split and cleaned, then deep fried. Fresh it’s great, NOT rubbery. I’m freezing most, Hope it is still tender and tasty afterward.

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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby rockdoc123 » Wed 04 Sep 2019, 17:45:57

Split and cleaned, then deep fried. Fresh it’s great, NOT rubbery. I


slice it in rings and stew in a spicy tomato sauce at low heat for longer than normal. Ends up not having any rubbery texture, tastes great in a spicy sauce and is quite healthy. Great as a topping for a mixture of barley and risotto. :)
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Newfie » Wed 04 Sep 2019, 18:59:01

Thanks,
We had it nearly like that this evening, except with pasta. :-D
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 06 Sep 2019, 17:23:41

Could Climate Change Make Cows The Next Stranded Asset?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikescott/ ... 7207a03184

New research for the Coller FAIRR Protein Producer Index, backed by $16 trillion of investment, finds that the world’s largest meat, fish and dairy producers are failing to match the sustainability commitments of the high-street brand names they supply, including McDonalds, Tesco, Nestlé and Walmart.
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Ibon » Fri 06 Sep 2019, 17:31:13

Squid are low on the food chain and super abundant, think of them like marine moths.

One of the sustainable food products of the oceans.....
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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby clif » Fri 06 Sep 2019, 23:47:20

One of the sustainable food products of the oceans.....


Until a good portion of the planets population use industrialized means to harvest squid and turn it into a major protein source for their GROWING population, just like they did every other source of protein in the oceans.

We will do to squid what people in South America are doing to the Amazon to keep the soy and beef flowing.

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Re: Meat Eaters Are Killing The Planet

Unread postby Ibon » Sat 07 Sep 2019, 07:39:36

clif wrote:
One of the sustainable food products of the oceans.....


Until a good portion of the planets population use industrialized means to harvest squid and turn it into a major protein source for their GROWING population, just like they did every other source of protein in the oceans.

We will do to squid what people in South America are doing to the Amazon to keep the soy and beef flowing.

In the end we ain't much smarter than yeast in many ways that count.


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