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President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 16:39:03

Iran was never complying with the deal. Only the fools at the Washington Post believed that fiction.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 16:59:35

Raising the ante amid fears of a new arms race, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia will directly target the United States should Washington deploy new intermediate-range missiles in Europe.

Russia is not looking for confrontation and remains open to arms control talks with Washington, but Moscow will respond to any threats to its security, Putin said Wednesday at his annual state of the nation address to both houses of parliament and his government ministries.

The U.S. political elite’s adherence to “American exceptionalism” has created a “destructive” anti-Russian policy of sanctions on Moscow, Putin said. But the U.S. should calculate the risks before taking any steps to that would threaten Russia, he said.

“They can count, can’t they?” the Kremlin leader said of U.S. political leaders. “Then let them count the speed and the range of the weapons systems we are developing.”

Putin has in the past blamed Washington for the breakdown of talks on arms control. But his remarks Wednesday were some of the sharpest yet since the U.S. announced last month that it would withdraw from the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces Treaty, a landmark Cold War-era arms control treaty. The pact banned either country from producing, testing and deploying short- and intermediate-range land-based missiles.

Russia will not hesitate to escalate in response to any U.S. moves to put new missiles in Europe, Putin said. Moscow has viewed NATO’s presence in Eastern Europe as U.S.-led aggression toward Russia.

“The United States demonstratively neglected the provisions of the INF treaty when deploying launchers in Romania and Poland," Putin said, referring to NATO missile defense systems in Romania and a U.S. proposal to place them in Poland.

“We don't want confrontation, particularly with such a global power as the U.S.," Putin said. “But Russia will always respond.”


Looks like Trump is seeing WWIII as the only escape from what's waiting for him. Maybe it's the same with Putin since the opposition is growing in Russia.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 17:01:50

Cog wrote:Iran was never complying with the deal.


Only idiots like you don't believe our own intelligence analysis.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 17:26:43

But I thought Trump was a Russian spy or stooge. This is so confusing now. So Trump is going to go to war with Russia now even though he is their puppet?

I think the media needs to get their stories straight here, so us deplorables can follow along.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 17:28:57

Cid_Yama wrote:
Cog wrote:Iran was never complying with the deal.


Only idiots like you don't believe our own intelligence analysis.


You mean guys like Clapper and Brennan who were trying to overthrow the Trump administration by illegally spying on him? These are the guys I'm supposed to believe?

Both of these clowns outright lied to Congress about domestic spying on US citizens. I'm not buying any analysis they would be part of.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 18:42:31

Least untruthful answer? LOL. This is the type of people that Cid trusts.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lawm ... s-runs-out

Clapper, director of national intelligence from 2010 to 2017, testified during a March 2013 Senate Intelligence Committee hearing that the NSA was "not wittingly” collecting “any type of data at all” on millions of Americans. Months later, former NSA contractor Edward Snowden revealed secret court orders forced phone companies to turn over all U.S. call records on an “ongoing, daily basis.”

In an apology letter, Clapper wrote that he gave a “clearly erroneous” answer because he “simply didn’t think of” the call-record collection. But in an MSNBC interview he offered a different explanation, saying he gave the “least untruthful” answer because he was “asked a, ‘When are you going to stop beating your wife?’ kind of question, meaning not answerable necessarily by a simple yes or no.”

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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 18:45:37

Maybe you will figure it out when the bombs start falling, or maybe not. Frankly I don't give a damn about what you believe. You have proved yourself an idiot for years, and just drag the goal posts when proved wrong.

Me, I've lived a full life. How about you?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby Cog » Wed 20 Feb 2019, 18:46:12

Lets not leave Brennan out. And these are the guys who did the Iran assessment.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... e-removed/

In 2014, he flat-out denied hacking into computers used by the Senate Intelligence Committee, which was at the time investigating the CIA's use of harsh interrogation measures against terrorists.

After the computer break-ins were proven beyond a doubt, Brennan apologized but refused to acknowledge wrong-doing by the CIA. Despite calls for his dismissal even by Democrats, President Obama stood by his man. Brennan stayed.

But this wasn't the last time Brennan's CIA spied on U.S. citizens. Far worse than spying on Congress was the CIA's involvement in the 2016 election, which increasingly appears to be not just out of bounds, but outright illegal.

Brennan's CIA ran an operation with the FBI that targeted the Trump presidential campaign, using foreign-based assets like CIA and MI6-linked Cambridge professor Stefan Halper, to lure Trump campaign aides into potentially politically-compromising meetings.
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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby derhundistlos » Thu 08 Aug 2019, 20:31:19

Question: Identify one person more than any other destined to suffer the eternal tortures of hell in a pain amplification chamber.

Answer: Below.

This land is your land..... Wildlife…..

Trump Administration Authorizes ‘Cyanide Bombs’ to Kill Wild Animals:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... e-services
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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby asg70 » Fri 09 Aug 2019, 08:10:07

derhundistlos wrote:Question: Identify one person more than any other destined to suffer the eternal tortures of hell in a pain amplification chamber.

Answer: Below.

This land is your land..... Wildlife…..

Trump Administration Authorizes ‘Cyanide Bombs’ to Kill Wild Animals:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... e-services


And this one. I haven't been keeping up with his greatest hits.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ate-change

Anyone here who is a Trump supporter is suffering from extreme cognitive dissonance. Not that Trump is particularly relevant to this thread.

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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby derhundistlos » Sat 10 Aug 2019, 23:43:26

With the world overflowing in shitheads, we should not battle among ourselves when onlooker, asg70, and DerHund are all on the same page more or less...

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!!
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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 12 Aug 2019, 13:26:58

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... 180970942/

Life expectancy continues to drop in the US.

Have we reached 'peak Americans.'

Is this tRump helping Make Americans Dies Again?? :) :twisted:
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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 12 Aug 2019, 13:43:04

Can't resist making some snarky political comment can you.

Overall, Americans could expect to live 78.6 years at birth in 2017, down a tenth of a year from the 2016 estimate, according to the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics. Men could anticipate a life span of 76.1 years, down a tenth of a year from 2016. Life expectancy for women in 2017 was 81.1 years, unchanged from the previous year.


Joe Oiler takes care of the grounds at the Spring Hill Cemetery in Charleston, W.Va. The state led the nation in overdose deaths in 2017. (Chris Dorst/Charleston Gazette-Mail/AP)
Drug overdoses set another annual record in 2017, cresting at 70,237 — up from 63,632 the year before, the government said in a companion report. The opioid epidemic continued to take a relentless toll, with 47,600 deaths in 2017 from drugs sold on the street such as fentanyl and heroin, as well as prescription narcotics. That was also a record number, driven largely by an increase in fentanyl deaths.

Since 1999, the number of drug overdose deaths has more than quadrupled. Deaths attributed to opioids were nearly six times greater in 2017 than they were in 1999.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... edirect=on

While Trump was President in 2017 he wasn't from 1999 to 2016, and from 2008 to 2016 you had your man Obama in the White House.

In May 2016, a group of national health experts issued an urgent plea in a private letter to high-level officials in the Obama administration. Thousands of people were dying from overdoses of fentanyl — the deadliest drug to ever hit U.S. streets — and the administration needed to take immediate action. The epidemic had been escalating for three years.

The 11 experts pressed the officials to declare fentanyl a national “public health emergency” that would put a laserlike focus on combating the emerging epidemic and warn the country about the threat, according to a copy of the letter.

“The fentanyl crisis represents an extraordinary public health challenge — and requires an extraordinary public health response,” the experts wrote to six administration officials, including the nation’s “drug czar” and the chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The administration considered the request but did not act on it.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... istration/

Note I'm quoting the Washington Post.
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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby derhundistlos » Tue 13 Aug 2019, 15:33:19

Trump Administration weakens U.S. wildlife protections, states and conservationists to sue

Trump working overtime to devestate US ecology for which there will be hell to be paid

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1V21KA
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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby derhundistlos » Tue 13 Aug 2019, 15:36:12

Forest animal populations have plummeted by half since 1970, report warns

https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/fo ... -1-4982614
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Re: Are We Running the Mouse Utopia Experiment?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Tue 13 Aug 2019, 15:45:23

Policy makers on Easter Island in the past were doing very much the same what Trump is doing now.
You had one Red Indian chieftain in late XVIII century (forgot his name) who have said following:

After felling the last tree and poisoning the last river white man will learn that money cannot be eaten

Sound like a prophet for me.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby asg70 » Thu 12 Sep 2019, 10:10:28

The hits just keep on coming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/clim ... tions.html

That anyone here would support Trump is the height of cognitive dissonance.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby dissident » Thu 12 Sep 2019, 12:12:37

asg70 wrote:The hits just keep on coming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/clim ... tions.html

That anyone here would support Trump is the height of cognitive dissonance.


Sure...

The New York Times is the boy who cried wolf too many times. So its current message is diluted. The New York Times and the rest of the fake stream media should lay off the big lie crack.

Ironically all these Trump derangement afflicted self-appointed shepherds of the proletariat are giving Trump lots of cover to roll back the policies and regulations they claim to be precious. As for the pollution chickens, the are coming home to roost already and no amount of corporatist denial will make them invisible.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump Domestic Pt. 2

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 19 Sep 2019, 10:16:15

... All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. - Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)


Chapterhouse: Dune by Frank Herbert

http://www.systemsthinker.com/interests ... racy.shtml

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Pathological Power: The Danger of Governments Led by Narcissists and Psychopaths

https://phys.org/news/2019-09-pathologi ... paths.html

... It's not really surprising that people with personality disorders are drawn to political power—narcissists crave attention and affirmation, and feel that they are superior to others and have the right to dominate them. They also lack empathy, which means that they are able to ruthlessly exploit and abuse people for the sake of power. Psychopaths feel a similar sense of superiority and lack of empathy, but without the same impulse for attention and adoration.

But pathocracy isn't just about individuals. As Lobaczewski pointed out, pathological leaders tend to attract other people with psychological disorders. At the same time, empathetic and fair-minded people gradually fall away. They are either ostracised or step aside voluntarily, appalled by the growing pathology around them.

As a result, over time pathocracies become more entrenched and extreme. You can see this process in the Nazi takeover of the German government in the 1930s, when Germany moved from democracy to pathocracy in less than two years.

Democracy is an essential way of protecting people from pathological politicians, with principles and institutions that limit their power (the Bill of Rights in the US, which guarantees certain rights to citizens is a good example).

This is why pathocrats hate democracy. Once they attain power they do their best to dismantle and discredit democratic institutions, including the freedom and legitimacy of the press. This is the first thing that Hitler did when he became German chancellor, and it is what autocrats such as Trump, Vladimir Putin and Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán have been attempting to do.

... In the US, there has clearly been a movement towards pathocracy under Trump. As Lobaczewski's theory predicts, the old guard of more moderate White House officials—the "adults in the room" – has fallen away. The president is now surrounded by individuals who share his authoritarian tendencies and lack of empathy and morality.

It seems as if the UK is also, closer to pathocracy than ever before. The recent exodus of moderate Conservatives is characteristic of the purges which occur as a democracy transitions into pathocracy.

... the danger of democracy transitioning into pathocracy is always real. It is always closer to us than we think, and once it has a foothold, will crush every obstacle in its way.


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Definition: pathocracy (n). A system of government created by a small pathological minority that takes control over a society of normal people
(from Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes, by Andrew Lobaczewski)

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