Plantagenet wrote:The NY TIMES reporter spends 8 hours driving.....and another 5 hours charging and/or waiting in line to charge the Chevy Bolt.
Plantagenet wrote:do you have some kind of obsessive/aggressive disorder
Plantagenet wrote:dolanbaker wrote: ...snopes who debunk the claim!
If you actually read the scopes article it doesn't debunk the claim, which is that mining lithium causes environmental damage.
There is no doubt that mining lithium is environmentally destructive. Your suggestion the problem has been "debunked" is just silly. How exactly do you imagine you can do industrial scale mining of lithium in very remote and pristine places without producing environmental damage?asg70/ennui/mos wrote:... troll.
In post after post you attack other posters and call them names. Thats really about all you do here.
You've been banned twice before for your behavior and now you are back doing it again. I think its time for you to level with us....do you have some kind of obsessive/aggressive disorder or some other mental problem that makes you act out like this? Pray tell.......
Cheers!
Plantagenet wrote:and once again the EV might actually be responsible for more CO2 emissions then the ICE car due to the large carbon footprint of LI batteries----and the bigger the Li battery the bigger its carbon footprint.
CHEERS!
"Executive Summary
The City of Vancouver has an extensive fleet of vehicles. Due to the significant impact of transportation on total greenhouse gas emissionsfrom a region, the City wants to reduce this impact by replacing more internal combustion engine vehicles (ICEVs) in its fleet with electric vehicles (EVs). This study uses life cycle analysis (LCA) to comparatively analyze two vehicle modelsof similar size of each type (ICEV and EV) currently used in the City’s fleet. Ford Focus is chosen for the ICEV and Mitsubishi i-MiEV for the EV, both with avehicle life of 150,000km. Carbon emissions and energy consumption are analyzed for each phase from cradle-to-gravefor both vehicles: raw material production, vehicle manufacture, transportation, operation, and decommissioning. The analysis shows that the electric vehicle has notably lower carbon emissions and lower energy consumption per kilometer. After considering all phases, the Ford Focusemits392.4gCO2-eq/kmand Mitsubishi i-MiEV emits 203.0gCO2-eq/kmover the vehicle life. Corresponding energy consumption is 4.2MJ/kmfor Ford Focus and 2.0MJ/kmfor Mitsubishi i-MiEV. Sensitivity analysis with a vehicle life of 100,000km and 250,000 km is also conducted, with the longer vehicle life further shifting the efficiency balance toward the electric vehicle."
https://sustain.ubc.ca/sites/default/fi ... ukreja.pdf
There is strong interest in small and simpler units for generating electricity from nuclear power, and for process heat.
This interest in small and medium nuclear power reactors is driven both by a desire to reduce the impact of capital costs and to provide power away from large grid systems.
The technologies involved are numerous and very diverse.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/informatio ... ctors.aspx
eclipse wrote:"Executive Summary
The City of Vancouver has an extensive fleet of vehicles. Due to the significant impact of transportation on total greenhouse gas emissionsfrom a region, the City wants to reduce this impact by replacing more internal combustion engine vehicles (ICEVs) in its fleet with electric vehicles (EVs). This study uses life cycle analysis (LCA) to comparatively analyze two vehicle modelsof similar size of each type (ICEV and EV) currently used in the City’s fleet. Ford Focus is chosen for the ICEV and Mitsubishi i-MiEV for the EV, both with avehicle life of 150,000km. Carbon emissions and energy consumption are analyzed for each phase from cradle-to-gravefor both vehicles: raw material production, vehicle manufacture, transportation, operation, and decommissioning. The analysis shows that the electric vehicle has notably lower carbon emissions and lower energy consumption per kilometer. After considering all phases, the Ford Focusemits392.4gCO2-eq/kmand Mitsubishi i-MiEV emits 203.0gCO2-eq/kmover the vehicle life. Corresponding energy consumption is 4.2MJ/kmfor Ford Focus and 2.0MJ/kmfor Mitsubishi i-MiEV. Sensitivity analysis with a vehicle life of 100,000km and 250,000 km is also conducted, with the longer vehicle life further shifting the efficiency balance toward the electric vehicle."
https://sustain.ubc.ca/sites/default/fi ... ukreja.pdf
Plantagenet wrote:he fails to consider the carbon footprint of the replacement Li battery
Plantagenet wrote:IT ISN'T FACTUALLY ACCURATE!
asg70 wrote:.....
Plantagenet wrote:This thread is about EVs
Plantagenet wrote:a discussion of something you can actually contribute to.
Plantagenet wrote:the carbon footprint of new cars is huge
Plantagenet wrote:asg70 wrote:.....
This thread is about EVs and right now we're getting into the interesting topic of the large carbon footprint of the Li-ion batteries used in EVs.
dolanbaker wrote:This story about the e-scooters is nothing really to do with electric vehicles, but is is everything to do with wasteful consumerism.
dolanbaker wrote: it could easily be bicycles or junk toys like the ones you get with kids burgers, it's all consumer waste, made specifically to be used and thrown away.
dolanbaker wrote:Saying that EVs are bad for the environment because of this nonsense is really trying to scrape the barrel to look for stories that put them in a bad light.
Plantagenet wrote:Wasteful consumerism of EV scooters you mean.
Plantagenet wrote:new e-scooter business spreading rapidly around the world, and its negative effects on the environment.
Plantagenet wrote:the e-scooter biz, which is based on cheap, disposable EV scooters, is bad for the environment.
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