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Re: Attack on Syria imminent

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Mon 16 Apr 2018, 21:09:07

Some perspective would help here. Think of the world as a burning forest you must walk through. There is a large blaze ahead labelled Syria. Around you there are over three dozen other fires, everything from heaps of brush to individual burning bushes. Underneath your own feet, the forest floor smokes.

In fact that very analogy was used by a political commentator on PBS NewsHour today. While we obsess over whether or not Syria did or didn't, we have military advisors on the ground in over forty countries, training troops, advising military forces, and seeking our enemies on their ground. There are few of us who could even identify half of those 40+ countries by name.
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Re: Attack on Syria imminent

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 17 Apr 2018, 07:34:54

Yup, and it’s probably a good thing to bring many of those guys home. Get out of most of those countries.
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Re: All Syrian men fleeing Syria are Chickens!

Unread postby M_B_S » Fri 27 Apr 2018, 04:22:19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... operty-law

10m Syrians at risk of forfeiting homes under new property law
Analysts say law leaves citizens who have opposed Assad regime facing permanent exile...
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Its time to go back before its to late.......

Dispite Idlib Syria is safe ISIS and NUSRA are defeatetd. No sharia law under US and RUS protection.

Safe your$$$ or get a new home @ home :twisted:
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 14 May 2018, 09:58:06

Damascus Airstrike

Before and after images show Israeli strike on Iranian base

New satellite images of Damascus International Airport near the Syrian capital showed extensive damage following Israeli airstrikes against Iranian targets earlier in the week.

The images, an intelligence analysis provided by ImageSat International (ISI), show the complete destruction of a 30x15m storage structure located close to the main terminal, as well as the abandonment of a facility known as “the Glasshouse.”

Israel struck 50 Iranian targets in Syria early Thursday morning after 20 rockets were fired towards Israel’s front defensive line in the Golan Heights by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps’s Quds Force.

The targets all belonged to IRGC’s Quds Force and included intelligence sites, logistics headquarters, a military compound and logistics complex in Kiswah near the Syrian capital of Damascus, weapons storage sites belonging at Damascus International Airport, intelligence systems and installations, as well as observation, military posts and military hardware in the buffer zone.

According to the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, at least 11 Iranians were among the 46 killed in Israel’s strikes.

In a report published on The American Interest news site, the “Glasshouse” at the Damascus International Airport was used by the IRGC as its headquarters under the command of General Hussein Kaani to supervise operations closer to the border with Israel.

Israeli officials have repeatedly voiced concerns over the growing Iranian presence on its borders and the smuggling of sophisticated weaponry from Tehran via Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon, stressing that both are red lines for the Jewish State.

Two years ago, the IDF noticed a shift by the Iranians and the IRGC’s Quds Force commander Maj.-Gen. Qassem Soleimani, who began to consider Syria, then falling again under the control of President Bashar Assad, as a platform providing the Islamic Republic strategic depth and increased regional hegemony.

Accordingly, in the past year, the IDF has noted an increasing Iranian presence in Syria, with Soleimani sending from Iran advanced air defense systems, with a maximum range of 110 kilometers, that could threaten Israel’s freedom of action in the country.

On Friday, Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Bahram Qassemi condemned the Israeli strikes, saying that "the Zionist regime cannot stand peace and stability in the region, and sees its own safety in making the region all the more unstable.”

Israel had been preparing for a direct attack from the Quds Force since mid-April, in response to a strike carried out by the Jewish State against an Iranian-operated airbase in Syria that killed seven IRGC soldiers.

Earlier in the week, the IDF instructed local governments to open bomb shelters to residents of the Golan Heights following the identification of “abnormal movements of Iranian forces in Syria.”

While some bomb shelters in the area had been opened prior to Tuesday’s announcement, shift in Iranian activities in Syria led to authorities' decision to open all bomb shelters and to inform residents of the increased tension in the area.
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby Cog » Tue 15 May 2018, 09:39:39

Perhaps the Iranian soldiers belong back in Iran.
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 15 May 2018, 13:09:47

There’s and idea. Perhaps we should model and bring American soldiers home to the USA.
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Syrian Hostage Situation

Unread postby vox_mundi » Thu 18 Oct 2018, 10:57:25

Putin Says Islamic State Has Seized 700 Hostages in Syria

SOCHI, Russia (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Islamic State (IS) militants had seized nearly 700 hostages in part of Syria controlled by U.S.-backed forces and had executed some of them and promised to kill more.

Speaking in the Black Sea resort city of Sochi, Putin said the hostages included several U.S. and European nationals, adding that Islamic State was expanding its control in territory on the left bank of the River Euphrates controlled by U.S. and U.S.-backed forces.
... “They have issued ultimatums, specific demands and warned that if these ultimatums are not met they will execute 10 people every day. The day before yesterday they executed 10 people”

The TASS news agency reported on Wednesday that IS militants had taken around 700 hostages in Syria’s Deir-al Zor province after attacking a refugee camp in an area controlled by U.S.-backed forces on Oct.13.

TASS said the militants had kidnapped around 130 families and taken them to the city of Hajin.


Appearently ISIS has forgotten how Putin's former KGB dealt with hostage takers and; that Russia could care less about the fate of the hostages. Question is: What will Trump do?

KGB Reportedly Gave Arab Terrorists a Taste of Brutality to Free Diplomats

JERUSALEM — The KGB has adopted novel, brutal and apparently effective methods of dealing with terrorists who attack Soviet interests in the Middle East, an Israeli newspaper reported Monday.

The Jerusalem Post said the Soviet secret police last year secured the release of three kidnaped Soviet diplomats in Beirut by castrating a relative of a radical Lebanese Shia Muslim leader, sending him the severed organs and then shooting the relative in the head.

The incident began when four Soviet diplomats were kidnaped last September by Muslim extremists who demanded that Moscow pressure the Syrian government to stop pro-Syrian militiamen from shelling rival Muslim positions in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli.

The militiamen, the Jerusalem paper said, did not cease their attacks, and the body of one of the Soviet diplomats, Arkady Katkov, was found a few days later in a field in Beirut.

The KGB then apparently kidnaped and killed a relative of an unnamed leader of the Shias' Hezbollah (Party of God) group, a radical, pro-Iranian group that has been suspected of various terrorist activities against Western targets in Lebanon.

Parts of the man's body, the paper said, were then sent to the Hezbollah leader with a warning that he would lose other relatives in a similar fashion if the three remaining Soviet diplomats were not immediately released. They were quickly freed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege

The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that Russia failed to protect the hostages of the Beslan school siege in which about 330 people died in 2004.

In the siege, Chechen rebels took more than 1,000 hostages, mostly children. The operation by Russian forces to end it used disproportionate force, the court added.

No Russian official has been held responsible for the high number of deaths, which included 186 children.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/ ... ya.russia3

... As snow fell, the lifeless figures of theatregoers still wearing their evening dress were piled up on the concrete terrace of the foyer.
... 'You need to send buses for the bodies,' screamed one policeman as ambulances and coaches flooded into the car park, 'not ambulances.'

Last night, as the number of hostages to perish in yesterday's early morning armed assault to free them from their Chechen captors nudged towards 100, President Vladimir Putin appealed for 'forgiveness' from the relatives of those who died.
.. 'We have not been able to save them all. Forgive us,' he said in a national televised address, although he did not comment on how and why so many died.

His dramatic comments came as evidence emerged that many of the hostages may have perished after Russian special forces unleashed a toxic gas to render the hostage takers helpless.
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Re: Syrian Hostage Situation

Unread postby dissident » Thu 18 Oct 2018, 19:06:55

Brain dead propaganda.

1) Some Israeli fiction about Hezbollah "terrorism" is a total joke. Israel calls Hezbollah terrorists because they kicked them out of Lebanon (Israel was an occupant of the south for a long time). In 2006, Hezbollah beat back an Israeli invasion and that is something Israel can never forgive. All of the Islamic terrorism is Sunni and is sponsored by the butcher Saudis and their Gulf allies.

2) Cute how in the case of Russia talking about the KGB 28 years after the fall of communism is considered normal by the OP as if there is some sort of continuity. How about we keep on talking about the Reich and the Gestapo when Germany is discussed since obviously 1945 has no significance.

3) NATO kangaroo courts making judgements on special forces operations in Russia is beyond ludicrous. This court never had any of the special forces and hostages as witnesses. It is the same as some internet user posting about how "in the west" zero casualties would result from any hostage rescue operation. How about this kangaroo court consider the case of 9/11 and how the US government failed the 3000 victims of Saudi terrorism.
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Re: Stock Market Crash! (merged) Pt. 5

Unread postby shortonoil » Wed 13 Mar 2019, 18:31:20

FWIW, I don't object at all to the frequency of Armageddon's posts -- it's the blatant bias and cherry picking, tantamount, IMO, to willful misrepresentation to try to make a fast crash doomer "case". Not that this behavior by fast crash doomers generally, is anything new or unusual.


Armageddon has not made one comment that can not be found in the Wall Street Journal. So what exactly is your problem, out side of the fact that you are an intentional, disingenuous, obstructionists. That is a problem for the rest of us, but mostly we just ignore you, and your 50 page dissertations that read like the mutterings of a heat prostrated iguana. You should give Armageddon credit, he apparently attempts to at least translate your hieroglyphics.

Speaking of, if Syria attacks Israel we will be somewhere near that place; Armageddon that is.
Syria's upgraded Russian ground to air defense system must be running.
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Re: Stock Market Crash! (merged) Pt. 5

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Wed 13 Mar 2019, 18:36:13

shortonoil wrote:Speaking of, if Syria attacks Israel we will be somewhere near that place; Armageddon that is.
Syria's upgraded Russian ground to air defense system must be running.

And last about ten minutes.
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Re: Stock Market Crash! (merged) Pt. 5

Unread postby shortonoil » Wed 13 Mar 2019, 18:59:39

And last about ten minutes.


Actually it will take about 18 minutes to disintegrate every thing from Stalingrad to Moscow.
Israel has nukes, Syria doesn't. Syria doesn't believe that Israel will use them? Russia now has a sub floating off the Syrian coast with 18, 20 megaton tipped nukes, on 18 hypersonic cruise missiles. If Israel flies into Syrian airspace again (for the 99th time in the last year) someone could wind up having a bad day. Syria's new air defense system is up, and running. Handy, real close to Armageddon. You don't believe all that old mythology stuff; do you?
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Re: Stock Market Crash! (merged) Pt. 5

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Wed 13 Mar 2019, 19:17:27

Nuclear cards are bad because you can only play them once. I was thinking of conventional anti radar missiles (ARMs) which are much more likely to actually be deployed.
From WIKI:
This led to the development of more advanced ARMs such as the AGM-78 Standard ARM and AGM-88 HARM missiles, which have inertial guidance systems (INS) built-in. This allows them to remember the radar's direction if it is turned off and continue to fly towards it. ARMs are less likely to hit the radar if the radar is turned off shortly after the missile is launched, as the longer the radar is off (and assuming it never turns back on), the more error is introduced into the missile's course. The ALARM even has an added loiter mode, with a built in parachute, enabling it to descend slowly until the radar lights up, when the rocket motor will re-ignite. Even a temporary shut down of the enemy's missile guidance radar can be of a great advantage to friendly aircraft during battle.
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby dissident » Thu 14 Mar 2019, 21:13:29

Syria will do nothing to Israel even if Israel continues to attack it. Israel is off limits and Russia is not going to start some nuclear war over Syria. The purpose of propping up the basically secular government of Syria is to prevent a Wahabbi hive from forming in the greater Middle East. Russia is constructing a cordon sanitaire spanning from Lebanon to Iran (and just watch, Afghanistan will be next) to keep the Salafi nutjobs at bay. Better to keep them close to the Saudis than to have them entrench in Central Asia. The fight to get them out after the 1990s has been long and bloody.

As a side benefit Russia gets to save the relatively moderate branch of Islam, the Shi'ites, from extermination by the Wahabbi strain of Sunnis.
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 04 May 2019, 12:28:32

The Great Idlib Offensive starts soon?!

NUSRA +Al Qaida Terrorists are trapped while the TIGER SAA +RUS is coming soon.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ne ... offensive/

According to a military source from the government stronghold of Mhardeh, the Syrian Army offensive will be led by their elite Tiger Forces, 4th Armored Division, and Republican Guard.

In addition to these Syrian Army divisions, the 5th Corps, National Defense Forces (NDF), Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP), and 11th Tank Division will also be participating in this offensive.
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 3 (merged)

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 26 Feb 2021, 18:36:50

Joe Biden just bombed Syria.

Its very weird ..... there were two attacks on US personnel in Iraq....so Biden bombs SYRIA?

Could it be that Biden doesn't know that Iraq and Syria are two different countries?

Or was Biden (or whoever is in control in the WH) just waiting for an excuse to try to start a new war in Syria?

Kamala Harris and other Ds denounced Trump for bombing Syria.......but now they are silent as Biden bombs Syria.

joe-biden-syria-airstrike-prompts-hypocrisy-accusations

In any case, its amazingly hypocritical for the Ds to be silent now as Biden bombs Syria without even bothering to inform Congress or explain to the American people why he just bombed Syria.

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Joe Biden just bombed Syria---so add Joe's name to the list of those who are now fighting in Syria

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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 3 (merged)

Unread postby JuanP » Fri 26 Feb 2021, 23:14:19

Obama bombed Syria, Trump bombed Syria, Biden bombed Syria. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, and the boss before that! :lol:
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 3 (merged)

Unread postby aadbrd » Sat 27 Feb 2021, 12:28:48

JuanP wrote:Obama bombed Syria, Trump bombed Syria, Biden bombed Syria. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, and the boss before that! :lol:


You conspicuously forgot one.

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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 3 (merged)

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 27 Feb 2021, 13:20:23

JuanP wrote:Obama bombed Syria, Trump bombed Syria, Biden bombed Syria. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, and the boss before that! :lol:


True enough, but there are some very large differences between the three.

Obama was trying to topple the Assad regime, so he funded the "free Syrian Army" to fight Assad (and secretly had the CIA arm, train, and fund jihadi forces in the eastern desert for the same purpose.). But then the jihadi forces in the eastern desert went rogue, turned into ISIS, and attacked Iraq. Obama's plan turned into disaster.

Obama was too wimpy to take down ISIS but then Trump became president and bombed and destroyed the ISIS Caliphate. Trump then began the process of withdrawing US troops from Syria.

Trump just about had all US forces out of Syria, but now Biden is back strengthening the US presence in Syria and now bombing Syria. One has to wonder if Biden is setting the stage to reverse the Trump plan to get out of Syria, and will instead go back to the disastrous Obama plan and attempt to militarily topple Assad again.

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Re: CA Officials: Worst Fire Season EVER

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 22 Oct 2021, 07:35:46

Not about California fires but Syria.

They executed 24 for starting wild fires.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-10-21/
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Re: THE Syria Thread Pt. 3 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 28 May 2023, 12:25:38

The US-led coalition against the Islamic State group will build a new base in the northern Syrian province of Raqqa, sources close to a coalition partner force have said... Plans for the new base come as coalition forces began a few weeks ago to equip a base just south of the city of Raqqa, the source told Al-Araby Al-Jadeed.

Currently, the largest base housing US troops in Syria is the Al-Omar field. There are currently at least 24 US-led coalition military sites spread throughout Syria’s northeast.


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Another forever war some suggest. Interesting since the US ally Saudi Arabia is reopening ties with the legitimate government

ALBAWABA - Saudi Arabian delegation arrived on Saturday in Syria to discuss reopening the country's embassy in Damascus. In April, the Saudi foreign ministry announced resuming diplomatic ties with Syria after years of severing relations following the start of the Syrian war.

Saudi Arabia also welcomed Syrian President Bashar Assad at the 32nd Arab League which was held on May 19 in the Saudi city of Jeddah.

https://www.albawaba.com/news/saudi-ara ... ia-1520451

The only thing these incursions into the middle east seem to achieve now is the driving of the oil rich nations into one camp, ultimately under the banner of the BRICS I would assume.
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