[rockdoc123]

Venezuela doesn't have nuclear, doesn't have oil and doesn't have hydro, and we know that because the lights are out! Anymore minor facts you are having trouble getting your head wrapped around?

missed a day at your ESL class did you? They "have" lots of oil and the "have" lots of hydro. What they do not have (for the last day and a half) is electricity. You do know how that works don't you? A power outage doesn't mean all the oil reserves are gone or that the hydro stations no longer work.

In other words their EROI is now zero, but according to your argument that since oil companies never consider EROI, that is completely irrelevant.

Of course it is irrelevant as the minute there is a new government in place there will be hordes of oil companies lining up to do deals once again. I talked to a couple of gents who have long experience back prior to the latest nationalization and they have been approached by several large oil and gas companies to help them get prepared for that inevitability. If you are now at calculating EROEI on any event that might transpire you have woefully misunderstood the concept.

[Yoshua]

The oil price broke down from its rising wedge today. The bounce from the collapse in Nov-Dec is over.

The global economy is slowing down. Bond yields are falling, inverting, going negative.

Deflation is coming. Energy is the key (EROEI).

[shortonoil]

The oil price broke down from its rising wedge today. The bounce from the collapse in Nov-Dec is over.

The global economy is slowing down. Bond yields are falling, inverting, going negative.

Deflation is coming. Energy is the key (EROEI).

The economy has reached the point where CB currency creation can no longer compensate for organic growth decline. It occurred at an ERoEI of 8.1:1. It also appears to have occurred about the time that legacy declines overwhelmed new production increases. Reserves that will be extracted are declining by 36 Gb a year. $60 oil is breaking the economy.

[Yoshua]

Venezuela's blackout continues for a third day. Their entire society is breaking down now.

"Maduro admitted “tremendous damage” had been done to the national grid and asked Venezuelans to pray.

“Everyone should know that the damage that has been done is more severe than any Venezuelan can imagine,” he said, announcing that electricity “administration” would be necessary in the coming days."

[Yoshua]

The lights are back on.

"Cities across Venezuela recovered electricity on Thursday after the blackout, the second major one in less than a month. Maduro on Wednesday night blamed the outage on a “terrorist attack” on the Guri hydroelectric facility that provides electricity to most of the country."

[asg70]

And Venezuela relates to the thread...how...exactly?

[Outcast_Searcher]

The oil price broke down from its rising wedge today. The bounce from the collapse in Nov-Dec is over.

The global economy is slowing down. Bond yields are falling, inverting, going negative.

Deflation is coming. Energy is the key (EROEI).

Try specifying something.

What bond yields are going negative, specifically?

The WTI and the Brent oil prices are showing up for the day. Oil (both Brent and WTI) have been in a solid uptrend for over 3 months. Desperately looking for a slight down move in oil for an hour or three is NOT evidence of anything "breaking down".

Deflation may or may not be coming. Even if it does, there is NO evidence energy is the cause.

You sound about as credible as armageddon claiming any decrease in any index is "a crash".

[Outcast_Searcher]

The economy has reached the point where CB currency creation can no longer compensate for organic growth decline. It occurred at an ERoEI of 8.1:1. It also appears to have occurred about the time that legacy declines overwhelmed new production increases. Reserves that will be extracted are declining by 36 Gb a year. $60 oil is breaking the economy.

As usual, you have no clue whatg you're talking about. 2010 - 2014 showed $100 oil hardly bothered the global economy. The only place the economy can't handle $60 oil is in your deluded mind.

[Yoshua]

Venezuela is going down the net energy cliff (EROEI). The decaying infrastructure is a result of not having enough energy to maintain it.

[Yoshua]

The U.S is going down the net energy cliff as well. This will have strange political consequences.

A weird observation:

The GOP has said that God wanted Trump to win the presidency. That God's hand is guiding Trump.

Trump has his MAGA crowd and the Qanon cultists at the MAGA rallies. After the witch hunt is now over, Qanon is now their prophet and Trump is their Messiah. Even Christ was attacked by the establishment.

This is freaking weird. America is modern nation.

[shortonoil]

As usual, you have no clue whatg you're talking about.

There you go again, stealing Rockdoc's insults. One would think that the possessor of all human knowledge could at least think of their own degrading, bigoted remarks. Being a complete ignorant jerk is just not enough anymore; you need originality! Stop by the site sometime and I'll give some pointers on how to be a complete total A-hole. I'd stop by yours, but you don't have one? A-hole dot com is still available though. And NO, the economy didn't handle $100 oil. It didn't handled it so well that the CB had to pump $16 trillion of counterfeit currency into circulation to keep it from collapsing. It is now collapsing anyway, and this time it will be permanent.

Historically, and every time that the cost of crude (calculated with WTI) has exceeded about 3.5% of world GDP the price has crashed. It is the maximum that the economy can afford to pay for its oil, and that is the result of the energy that oil can deliver to the economy (which on a per unit bases is going down). The price is again approaching 3% of GDP and will soon collapse again. This time however will be the last. Not much of the world's remaining oil can be produced for less than what it is presently bringing. Any resemblance of a modern technological economy will go with the oil. The Dark Ages will begin again where it left off 1000 years ago almost immediately after the lights go out.

[rockdoc123]

Venezuela is going down the net energy cliff (EROEI). The decaying infrastructure is a result of not having enough energy to maintain it.

Jesus wept.....the decaying infrastructure is a result of Chavez and then Maduro taking revenues from oil and distributing it as "gifts/social program spending" to the poor indigenous in order to bolster continuing support at the polls at the expense of reinvesting that money back into maintenance and further development in the oil fields. When the price dropped in 2014 that made the situation worse as more and more oil and gas revenue had to be funneled into social programs to maintain the status quo. Time to read a newspaper I think.

[Outcast_Searcher]

As usual, you have no clue whatg you're talking about.

There you go again, stealing Rockdoc's insults. One would think that the possessor of all human knowledge could at least think of their own degrading, bigoted remarks. Being a complete ignorant jerk is just not enough anymore; you need originality!

So you have NOTHING meaningful to say. Just more spewing like a small child.

Got it. Totally expected.

Thank you for confirming my observation that YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

And when you can show me something in writing re this site's rules that demands I ensure my observations are unique by carefully reviewing or memorizing ALL OTHER POSTER'S COMMENTS, even for common phrasing -- be sure and let us know.

Hint: you'd be more successful deflecting by jingling keys at another small child. And I know, other people have used the phrase "jingling keys" before, including myself.

I'm sure you'd be exactly as successful in that endeavor as you are in saying anything meaningful about oil or economics, or making good predictions as well.

You know, just making up your own reality and actually believing in it could qualify you for the loony bin, right? Or are you too far gone to see that?

[Outcast_Searcher]

So when your model fails to predict anything useful, you go back to blaming some other nebulous force as to why you are wrong. How convenient for you all.

And how credible.

I suppose I should hide now, as I'll be accused of being a stupid, evil, nebulous force. Another example of the amazing integrity and crediblity of the ever awesome short! /s

Isn't it an AMAZING coincidence how both unprovable conspiracies and nonsensical theories like the ETP are constantly done in by a web of dark, nebulous forces.

NO CHANCE of course, that the common theme there would be paranoia...

[Outcast_Searcher]

The oil price broke down from its rising wedge today. The bounce from the collapse in Nov-Dec is over.

So, your (likely stolen / copied) observation re technical analysis is the usual Yoshua FAIL in less than one day. Congrats!

How many thousands of silly calls of that caliber are you going to regale us with over time, in your attempts to make shorty look correct, prove doom, etc?

Hint: At least PRETEND you know something about technical analysis, and wait a week, or better a month or two and see if your call even BEGINS to be confirmed.

But I know, you're so desperate to show ANY figure that might look like doom, you want to spew all that you can. It's as though a truckload of nonsense is far more credible than a handful of actual reasonable points / observations, in your mind.

Hint 2: It's not. But I know, you'll keep playing, having nothing better to do.

Meanwhile, WTI is back over $60, the ETP bozo looks worse and worse, and you keep frantically trying to defend him.

[asg70]

Venezuela is going down the net energy cliff (EROEI). The decaying infrastructure is a result of not having enough energy to maintain it.

Venezuela is where Russia was around the time of the fall of the soviet union. They have more exploitable hydrocarbons but socialism has (temporarily) destroyed their ability to do anything with it. This has been explained multiple times but doomers keep clinging to your narrative.

Note that people like Orlov previously clung to the fall of the soviet union as a harbinger of what the world would look like post-peak only to look like idiots when russian oil production actually BOUNCED BACK under their current clemtocratic flavor of capitalism emerged.

Point being that doomers ALWAYS serve up above-ground issues as false proof of geologic depletion/exhaustion.

[onlooker]

NEXT OIL DOMINO TO FALL? Mexico Becomes A Net Oil Importer

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03- ... l-importer

[Yoshua]

The poor in Venezuela voted for food, medicine and education...thinking that the oil wealth was there.

The poor in the U.S will vote for food stamps, health care and free education in 2020...thinking that the wealth is there?

Even the weirdo in the Whitehouse is a better choice. Democracy is a dangerous tool in these strange days.

I have noticed that it is really hard to call the top in the oil price...but we very close now?

The WTI technical chart:

[vtsnowedin]

I think such charts are useless because tomorrow's price is not effected by any past price or set of conditions but only on the then current supply and demand conditions.
But playing with your chart out of boredom, why don't you move your long term trend line up from the valleys to connect the peaks in June and October. That would project out to a peak of about $85 and keep right on rising if you extend the chart a few more years forward.

[Cog]

Chartists seem to believe that charts magically constrain prices or predict the future. Charts are a tool but don't bet money on them.