GASMON wrote:Trouble brewing up in the UK
FORMER Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab has warned that if politicians were to betray Brexit voters and not take the UK out of the EU there would be a “day of reckoning” for them. He asserted on BBC Question Time that attempts to “frustrate Brexit” are nothing short of an “establishment stitch-up”. Mr Raab added that the UK must leave the EU on March 29 and was met with rapturous applause from the audience. The Tory MP was Brexit Secretary from June to November last year, before resigning over Theresa May’s Brexit deal.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10972 ... -secretary
The People V the establishment - Is democracy dying ? Interesting days ahead in the UK
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Newfie wrote: We walk down the street and see folks different from ourselves and it raises primitive fears we may well not be aware of on a conscious level.
KaiserJeep wrote:
We are a generation into the network, and the changes keep coming. Our politics, our shopping, and our entertainment have all been extensively changed by the network. My siblings and myself are all over the country, but share and interact through social apps on the network.
Ibon wrote:
Ecological based management of society due to human overshoot is not avoidable.
vtsnowedin wrote:Ibon wrote:
Ecological based management of society due to human overshoot is not avoidable.
While the need for such maybe unavoidable achieving something on those lines is by no means certain.
Ibon wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:Ibon wrote:
Ecological based management of society due to human overshoot is not avoidable.
While the need for such maybe unavoidable achieving something on those lines is by no means certain.
Of course not certain but if a country and its citizens are looking for a strategy that minimizes suffering and maximizes stability and security then it is pretty much unavoidable.
The alternatives are ugly.
vtsnowedin wrote:Ibon wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:Ibon wrote:
Ecological based management of society due to human overshoot is not avoidable.
While the need for such maybe unavoidable achieving something on those lines is by no means certain.
Of course not certain but if a country and its citizens are looking for a strategy that minimizes suffering and maximizes stability and security then it is pretty much unavoidable.
The alternatives are ugly.
It is convincing the majority or, the leadership at least ,that it is the best path forward,that this is the problem. You must first convince them that their long held point of view is wrong and it is not just the oppositions actions that are causing the problems they face.
Newfie wrote:Ibon,
I think you have a very skewed vision of diversity in the big cities. You paint a kind of utopia where every one gets along. That may be what you are seeing in your children but they are not the folks I’m talking about. The various rival gangs should alert you to that. That there are pop up mobs which mug people and stores shows the lack of cohesion. The dialect differences make simple communication difficult. There are strong conservative religious groups, and they can carry very strong race/color prejudice. Then there a simple experiential differences; huge swaths of folks are functionally illiterate, they won’t mix well with others because simply because the are not accessible by writing, influencing them requires face to face contact. One of my kids is a corrections officer, and pretty good with the inmates. He has an understanding of their ways. He will leave immediatly if he is in a store and a gang banger comes in who is in foreign turf. He’s afraid a local banger will come in and bad things ensue.
I’m not denying what you see in your world, just that there is a different area of the world.
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