Newfie wrote:
Other classes? Don’t know. But my guess is there are a lot of truly ignorant folks out there with extremely little awareness of things in general.
baha wrote:My wanderings fill me with unrest. Everyone has one gripe or another. At the root is a growing awareness that something has to change. Each group follows the issues their preferred Leader spouts. But none of them have the right answer!?
It is diminishing returns. A pickup truck can have 6 wheels, four doors, and four screens. What do you get for the next $10k of price they keep adding on. The shiny stuff has less effect each day. Awareness is sinking in. The consequences are building. We are being milked and left in an environmental shithole.
And 90% are blindly following one idiot or another down the hole. Maybe I'm premature, or maybe I'm hopeful people will start looking up and find new leaders.
OK, help me out here...is that effect or affect?
Ibon wrote:It seems like most Americans are a lot like Plantagent, that somehow this capitalistic system we have is ordained as wise and absolute. Or that it may not be perfect but any other alternative is worse. Similar like the saying that democracy and free enterprise doesn't really ever work but its better than all the other systems.
Ibon wrote: I want someone here to prove me wrong ... demonstrate that the heat is on the rise and that the pressure is building. That the source is being targeted and not scapegoats like the other party, or immigrants, etc. etc. etc.
If the American people want socialism, they'll elect Elizabeth Warren and big D majorities in the Congress
GHung wrote: I have yet to hear any candidate, Democrat or otherwise say they want socialism. Show me where any of these people have said they want the State to own all means of production and distribution, provide all services, and for all Americans to be employed by the State.
The tragedy is how effectively the citizens of the US are duped into believing the scripted narrative that is created by the media and politicians, puppets of lobbyists, that keep everyone divided and hating eachother while the extreme wealthy stand on the sidelines smiling...
The Alarmed are fully convinced of the reality and seriousness of climate change and are already taking individual, consumer, and political action to address it. The Concerned are also convinced that global warming is happening and a serious problem, but have not yet engaged the issue personally.
Three other Americas – the Cautious, the Disengaged, and the Doubtful – represent different stages of understanding and acceptance of the problem, and none are actively involved. The final America – the Dismissive are very sure it is not happening and are actively involved as opponents of a national effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions..
Plantagenet wrote:.......
What law professor Richard Epstein calls Warren’s “surreptitious socialism” would, he says, “likely lead to the largest flight of capital from the United States in history.” [/i]
Cheers!
GHung wrote:We'll just keep ignoring that some of the healthiest, happiest, and most prosperous societies these days are in fact "social democracies".
Newfie wrote:Plant.... it strikes me the coherent drift is away from a “law abiding” culture (typically agronomist) towards a “honor society” culture (pastoralist/herders).
Newfie wrote:Just thoughts rumbling through my head.
Newfie wrote:The Alarmed are fully convinced of the reality and seriousness of climate change and are already taking individual, consumer, and political action to address it. The Concerned are also convinced that global warming is happening and a serious problem, but have not yet engaged the issue personally.
Three other Americas – the Cautious, the Disengaged, and the Doubtful – represent different stages of understanding and acceptance of the problem, and none are actively involved. The final America – the Dismissive are very sure it is not happening and are actively involved as opponents of a national effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions..
Only 29% of Americans are Alarmed. I would say that means on 29% of Americans are awake and aware. An additional 30% have some dim idea that there is a potential danger.
There is NO excuse for anyone in he USA to not be alarmed. There is a vast amount of information from a multitude of sources. They are not being duped, they are willfully hiding their heads.
To say they are “duped” makes them victims.
They are not victims, they are perpetrators.
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