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Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby jawagord » Fri 11 Jan 2019, 12:36:19

Don't be alarmed folks. Cold temperature weather anomalies are "proof" of climate change, how could we have cold temperatures otherwise, it can't be global cooling? High temperatures on the other hand are both "proof" of global warming and climate change! See if you are a believer you can have your cake and eat it too!

Temperatures in Greece have hit record lows and Athens has seen a rare dusting of snow, as deadly winter weather continues to pummel Europe.

Northern Greece saw an all-time low of -23C on Tuesday, which was recorded in the city of Florina, disrupting roads, rail and bus services.


While tourists at the Acropolis were treated to a snow-globe scene on Tuesday, locals had to contend with roads made impassable by ice and many schools were closed in the Athens region.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 19051.html
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 12 Jan 2019, 12:43:31

(Note to j: It's called global warming, not 'local warming.' Individual temperature records at specific locations mean next to nothing. But thanks for at least admitting that you believe in thermometers! Now do you believe that most thermometers in most of the globe have been showing mostly higher temperatures over most of the last fifty years? As pretty much everyone who has looked at the thermometer readings have concluded? Including BEST, who actually set out to prove that everyone else was wrong at that the world isn't warming??)
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby Tuike » Sun 13 Jan 2019, 15:44:25

derhundistlos wrote:2018 GLOBAL TEMPS. 4TH HIGHEST ON RECORD

Scientists issue dire warning in new study finding last year was likely the hottest on record -thinkprogress
“It is too late to stop serious global warming," warns scientist.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby Revi » Mon 14 Jan 2019, 11:01:30

jawagord wrote:Don't be alarmed folks. Cold temperature weather anomalies are "proof" of climate change, how could we have cold temperatures otherwise, it can't be global cooling? High temperatures on the other hand are both "proof" of global warming and climate change! See if you are a believer you can have your cake and eat it too!

Temperatures in Greece have hit record lows and Athens has seen a rare dusting of snow, as deadly winter weather continues to pummel Europe.

Northern Greece saw an all-time low of -23C on Tuesday, which was recorded in the city of Florina, disrupting roads, rail and bus services.


While tourists at the Acropolis were treated to a snow-globe scene on Tuesday, locals had to contend with roads made impassable by ice and many schools were closed in the Athens region.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 19051.html


When I visited Greece in the early 2000's they had just had a major snowstorm. We drove up the mountain and made a snowman on our hood, and then drove back down. It's not unusual. That's why they call it weather and not climate.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 14 Jan 2019, 13:34:52

Forty three years ago when I met my wife she lived on Chicopee Mass. which is two degrees of latitude and 1700 feet lower in elevation then our home in VT. I was struck then by how mild their winters were compared to VT. Snow when it did fall almost always melted or greatly settled before the next storm and some side streets were never plowed just letting traffic action and some salt melt it off. Late January often had a couple of inches of crust on the lawn and temps above freezing every afternoon
With forty three years of climate change that milder weather has moved north a bit but is still a long ways south and below me. I don't think I'll get to retire my snow shovel in my lifetime.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby dohboi » Mon 14 Jan 2019, 21:20:44

Climate change claims a corporate victim: PG&E just declared bankruptcy

The company faces billions of dollars in liability from wildfires exacerbated by rising temperatures and drought.


https://www.vox.com/2019/1/14/18182162/ ... bankruptcy

Along the same lines:

The cost of climate change for PG&E is a warning to big business

...Last year was the worst wildfire season in California's history.

The Camp Fire, which destroyed the town of Paradise, was the costliest catastrophe worldwide, with $16.5 billion in damages, per reinsurance company Munich Re.

PG&E could be on the hook for billions of dollars in liability costs related to last year and the prior year's wildfires, far more than its insurance would cover. The Camp Fire alone killed at least 86, and may have been triggered by a spark from PG&E's power lines.

The mounting costs have led the company to consider bankruptcy. Its share price has been cut in half and CEO Geisha Williams has abruptly left the company....


https://www.axios.com/pge-bankruptcy-co ... 40e53.html
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Tue 15 Jan 2019, 07:10:24

Blame CC for PG&E's foolishness if you must, but your efforts are misplaced.

PG&E did not cause the Santa Ana winds that come every year. What they did do was attempt to boost company profits by laying off a good portion of the linemen cutting back tree foliage from the lines, which sparked last year's wildfires.

This is part of a series of bad decisions they have made, such as failing to maintain a old and deteriorated high pressure gas main that subsequently exploded and burned an entire neighborhood, or failing to pave an emergency spillway on the second largest hydropower dam in the state.

PG&E profits are smaller than what other power companies provide, because they are burdened by excessive demands to reduce carbon dioxide and other pollutants, and to provide net metering for distributed solar PV and wind power, and so forth. These things are mandated by state laws and when such legislation causes reduced profits PG&E managers are induced to take cost-cutting measures that put people at risk. It is the downside of California's agressive environmental legislation. It seems that investors expect high profits and dividends regardless of the expenses imposed by anti-CC legislation.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 15 Jan 2019, 07:19:09

Reminds me a bit of PR.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby Cog » Tue 15 Jan 2019, 10:13:57

The end result will be higher costs of energy to California consumers. Meanwhile, PG&E, due to bankruptcy, are going to immunize themselves from lawsuits. Don't see how that is a win for anyone. But California loves lawsuits so enjoy.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 20

Unread postby Newfie » Tue 15 Jan 2019, 11:59:57

Yup. This is a dog eating it’s tail.
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