derhundistlos wrote:onlooker- Yes, it's death by a thousand forms of manmade environmental devastation. One day, in the not too distant future, we will wake one day to discover we have finally ushered in irreparable destruction of a critical ecological system that had been previously taken for granted.
Cog wrote:The air on earth has been breathable for hundreds of millions of years through higher global co2 levels and temperatures. It's hubris to think humans are or can change that.
onlooker wrote:Newfie, I see Cog as the prototypical Denialist. Denying not so much by refuting the facts but simply refusing to entertain them
Newfie wrote:onlooker wrote:Some just can not stand the thought of the possible die off, it is unthinkable.
Some are so caught up in their own hubris they can’t imagjne being wrong.
Some, far too many on both sides of the argument (AOC comes to mind) have not clue one but simply follow their herd thinking.
Some are mentally deranged.
Ibon wrote:Pops wrote:dohboi wrote:Pops, your last point reminds me of a sociological study of two adjacent neighborhoods in Chicago. During the deadly heatwave of '95, one neighborhood suffered very many deaths, the other, hardly any at all. After ruling out a number of other possible factors, the sociologist concluded that the difference was community cohesion.
Very good.
Showing another downside to the rise of sensationalist clickbait media, let alone the silos of the net.
Yep, this is why I laugh every time I read on this site the predictions from the clueless that Central and South America will suffer devastating consequences of peak oil and climate change while the USA will remain resilient.
dohboi wrote:Here's another type of tipping point that China seems to have passed:
Chinagov confirms: population decline unstoppable
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-46772503
Newfie wrote:onlooker wrote:Newfie, I see Cog as the prototypical Denialist. Denying not so much by refuting the facts but simply refusing to entertain them
I’m not sure if that’s better or worse than those disrupters who invariably drive the discussion to some arcane factoid and scream it disproves all else. Perhaps if Cog were able to entertain the facts he would use his logical brain to process it.
I’ve a few theories about why we have such a persistent denier community. Probably all play a partial role.
Some just can not stand the thought of the possible die off, it is unthinkable.
Some are so caught up in their own hubris they can’t imagjne being wrong.
Some, far too many on both sides of the argument (AOC comes to mind) have not clue one but simply follow their herd thinking.
Some are mentally deranged.
Recently saw an article that said 16% of millennials and not convienced Earth is round, are open to other possibilities or believe in other shapes, E.g. flat Earthers. There is just a uninformed, ignorant, scared, weird fring you will never reach. AWG denialist are running about 23% of the population IIRC. Not too far different.
But I do think AIC with her GND BS has agitated them, put a stick in the bee hive.
onlooker wrote:Newfie meant AOC ALEXANDRA OCASIO CORTES and the Green New Deal. People just sometimes believe what they want to believe
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