[GHung]

This slope GHung thinks so and I think probably too it will turn into shit with crap everywhere.

Yes. Crap everywhere. Well said!

[vtsnowedin]

At present I'd give the Dems a 55 to 45 advantage in the 2020 run but expect the numbers to change a lot between now and then. Which way they will change depends on the actions of the players so is yet to be determined.

[Cog]

Three major factors in play. What does Mueller have on Donald Trump? What does the economy look like two years from now? How far left does the Democrat party go with their eventual nominee?

[longpig]

Gog, Mueller has nothing on trump the whole thing is fake, Trump may win again if he can keep the illegals out of the USA, I read Florida and Texas were for Trump last election but by 2020 with the immigration they will be blue states so really the USA is finished and the decline is not even PO related. I think countries should start sending out nukes, things are so insane now maybe after a nuclear war someone sane can lead. The USA is promoting faggatory, transgenders and basically everything that condemned the cities Sodom and Gomorrah, if anything will happen thou the USA has been building up so much sin and so little regard for anything good that the USA must burn to the ground.

[vtsnowedin]

Three major factors in play. What does Mueller have on Donald Trump? What does the economy look like two years from now? How far left does the Democrat party go with their eventual nominee?

I'd add in the state of the trade negotiations as a major part of the economy. If corn and soybeans are rotting on the ground fall 2019 in Iowa neither Trump or Pence would be able to win the caucuses.

[vtsnowedin]

Gog, Mueller has nothing on trump the whole thing is fake, Trump may win again if he can keep the illegals out of the USA, I read Florida and Texas were for Trump last election but by 2020 with the immigration they will be blue states so really the USA is finished and the decline is not even PO related. I think countries should start sending out nukes, things are so insane now maybe after a nuclear war someone sane can lead. The USA is promoting faggatory, transgenders and basically everything that condemned the cities Sodom and Gomorrah, if anything will happen thou the USA has been building up so much sin and so little regard for anything good that the USA must burn to the ground.

Try to keep posts of rants down to one or two points if you want a serious discussion.

Mueller has nothing on trump

You have no idea about what Mueller has on Trump.

I read Florida and Texas were for Trump last election but by 2020 with the immigration they will be blue states

Illegal and even Green card carrying legal aliens can't vote in presidential elections until they become naturalized citizens so those states turning blue is a way off and the GOP might well convince a lot of these new voters that blindly voting Democratic is seldom in their interest.

I think countries should start sending out nukes, things are so insane now maybe after a nuclear war someone sane can lead.

There is no such thing as a limited nuclear war so the idea of starting one for any reason is itself insane.

The USA is promoting faggatory, transgenders and basically everything that condemned the cities Sodom and Gomorrah, if anything will happen thou the USA has been building up so much sin and so little regard for anything good that the USA must burn to the ground.

Keep your religious zealotry to yourself. It just demonstrates your lack of sophistication.

[GHung]

longpiggy said; "The USA is promoting faggatory, transgenders and basically everything that condemned the cities Sodom and Gomorrah, if anything will happen thou the USA has been building up so much sin and so little regard for anything good that the USA must burn to the ground.

So what have you done to oppose and speak out against the Sinner-In-Chief? The adulterer who bears false witness at every opportunity? He who worships wealth and self over the one true God? Who lives in service of the Cardinal Sins?

[Newfie]

GHung,

Which ones were you referring to? JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Trump all come to mind.

[GHung]

GHung,

Which ones were you referring to? JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Trump all come to mind.

Three of those are ancient history; only one is the clear-and-present-danger. You figure it out.

[asg70]

GHung,

Which ones were you referring to? JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Trump all come to mind.

Spoken like a true doomer nihilist.

[careinke]

GHung,

Which ones were you referring to? JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Trump all come to mind.

Three of those are ancient history; only one is the clear-and-present-danger. You figure it out.

I agree, I think Clinton is a clear and present danger, even if his wife can't see it.

[GHung]

GHung,

Which ones were you referring to? JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Trump all come to mind.

Three of those are ancient history; only one is the clear-and-present-danger. You figure it out.

I agree, I think Clinton is a clear and present danger, even if his wife can't see it.

Calling that "thinking" is a stretch under any circumstances.

[asg70]

"I think Clinton is a clear and present danger"

For people to fixate on such banality.... BAU continues apace indeed.

[vtsnowedin]

I posted this elsewhere but it belongs here as well.

Here is a couple of thoughts for you.
Watching VP Pence in the oval office this week I got the impression he is just bidding his time.
Also it is not looking good for Trump at this point so lets suppose he is driven out by say next April. Pence becomes president and could serve the balance of Trumps term and be eligible for two more full terms as Trump will be past the halfway point of his term.
When the VP slot becomes vacant Pence can appoint a successor but they have to be confirmed by a majority of both houses (amendment 25 section 2.) and I can't think of anyone both sides would agree on with the next congresses makeup so the office might sit vacant for a while.
The Dems on a roll will turn their attention to Pence and will try to drive him out of office, most probably by tying him to some crime of Trump's.
If they drive him out with the VP slot vacant the next in line is the speaker of the house which will be Pelosi.
I'm sure she dreams of this and is working towards it with every action.

[Cog]

What crime are you guys figuring to charge Trump with?

[vtsnowedin]

What crime are you guys figuring to charge Trump with?

The coverup of the hooker pay-offs.

[Cog]

What crime are you guys figuring to charge Trump with?

The coverup of the hooker pay-offs.

Seriously? Good luck with that.

[asg70]

What crime are you guys figuring to charge Trump with?

The coverup of the hooker pay-offs.

Seriously? Good luck with that.

Clinton got impeached for little more than lying about an affair. He didn't leave office afterwards, of course, but it's a sign of the times how much we've tolerated from Trump that never would have been tolerated in the 90s or earlier. We've set the bar low. Very low.

[vtsnowedin]

What crime are you guys figuring to charge Trump with?

The coverup of the hooker pay-offs.

Seriously? Good luck with that.

Perhaps you don't understand the difference between the pay offs and the coverup of those payments.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news- ... d-a-felony

[Cog]

I understand you don't have 67 senators in your pocket to remove Trump from office. Perhaps your math is common core.

I have a $100 dollar bet with Ibon that Trump will serve out his term. Want to go $100 with me Vt?