Pops wrote:Luckily we got out of that worthless Paris agreement, plant, we're much better off, even better, freezing the unprofitable CAFE standards will help cool the planet, now if only gov.moonbeam would quit diverting rivers to the ocean the fires would go out...
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Pops wrote: now if only gov.moonbeam would quit diverting rivers to the ocean the fires would go out...
Plantagenet wrote:Pops wrote: now if only gov.moonbeam would quit diverting rivers to the ocean the fires would go out...
I thought you liked gov. moonbeam.![]()
And the fires in California aren't going out ever again---at least not until the trees all burn off.
California is changing from a Mediteranean temperate climate to a desert climate because of global warming. The current forest biomes can't survive there under the new hotter drier climate regime so they are burning off.
California's future is a climate like the one found today in Baja California just a few hundred miles to the south---i.e. a hot dry desert that is inhospitable to trees.
Cheers!
Pops wrote:Luckily we got out of that worthless Paris agreement, plant, we're much better off, even better, freezing the unprofitable CAFE standards will help cool the planet, now if only gov.moonbeam would quit diverting rivers to the ocean the fires would go out...
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Cog wrote:You mean like the Sacramento river which California has refused to impound/dam because of some endangered species that live at its conjunction with the Pacific Ocean? Yeah that water that flows to the Pacific.
jedrider wrote:Cog wrote:You mean like the Sacramento river which California has refused to impound/dam because of some endangered species that live at its conjunction with the Pacific Ocean? Yeah that water that flows to the Pacific.
Yes, why respect nature? However, it won't show any respect towards us in return.
That little fish is just an INDICATOR species. It's disappearance demonstrates lost of habitat. Eventually, OUR habitat as well.
The California water projects get a lot of fresh water from the Delta, up to 25%, sent south to farmers and cities. What is often ignored, is that a lot of the water flow to the San Francisco Bay is to keep out salt water to the Delta from the ocean, at least during the summer, since the Delta has been sinking, and is below sea level. There are 74 kinds of fish in the Delta, including two thirds of California’s salmon, which use the Delta to go upstream to spawn. The endangered fish is the delta smelt, which unfortunately, has been dying off anyway, by unknown factors. This keeps water flowing to the Bay and ocean, and limits fresh water diversion. There are also farmers on the Delta who use the non-diverted water, and an involved, multi-species ecology, including being a stopover for migrating birds.
Pops wrote:jedrider wrote:Cog wrote:You mean like the Sacramento river which California has refused to impound/dam because of some endangered species that live at its conjunction with the Pacific Ocean? Yeah that water that flows to the Pacific.
Yes, why respect nature? However, it won't show any respect towards us in return.
That little fish is just an INDICATOR species. It's disappearance demonstrates lost of habitat. Eventually, OUR habitat as well.
Shasta dam is on the Sacramento, the largest res in CA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... iver_basin
jedrider wrote:Well, the confusion probably often arises:
So, the Sacramento River has nothing to do with Sacramento
dissident wrote: Even if we went to 3.5 billion humans today, the CO2 released into the atmosphere would not stop...It it is not about faith in human reproduction. It is lack of faith in intelligent collective behaviour of humans.
jedrider wrote:Pops, thanks for the lecture on the Sacramento River. I've been to it, but I had no idea it came from Shasta Lake region.
LOL, "stop diverting rivers to the ocean" was the ina[n]e pronouncement from the Whitehouse when granting emergency aid
Even the White House can't explain President Donald Trump's tweets suggesting California environmental laws have worsened wildfires raging in that state.
On Tuesday, administration officials declined to offer any clarity on Trump's series of tweets claiming environmental laws and water regulations in California are hampering the state's ability to fight the wildfires. Wildfire experts and local officials say the President's claims simply don't hold up.
...based on 30 years experience in agricultural systems , is that 1 billion is being extremely optimistic
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