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THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Re: Prince William warns that there are too many people in t

Unread postby asg70 » Fri 03 Nov 2017, 12:34:08

People will shoot the messenger on this one, but he's absolutely right. His father raised him well.
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Re: Prince William warns that there are too many people in t

Unread postby GASMON » Fri 03 Nov 2017, 13:26:07

Sponging barstewards.

This lot should be the first to go.

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Re: Prince William warns that there are too many people in t

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Fri 03 Nov 2017, 18:46:17

Great its being said but everyone hears their own message and there is no global response

Rich people would be worried about the Chinese eating all their butter and eventually drinking all their champagne.
Poor people worried other poorer people are taking their jerbs
Merchants wanting more customers
Economists wanting more growth
People wanting to escape war and bad economics
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 09 Nov 2017, 11:17:53

Breed like rabbits and reverse population decline, Poles urged

Health ministry releases video praising the healthy lifestyle and reproduction of rabbits to encourage couples to have more children


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... oles-urged

I swear, you couldn't make this sh!t up!
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Poles told to breed 'like rabbits' to fight falling birth ra

Unread postby dolanbaker » Thu 09 Nov 2017, 14:53:35

In a world that is rapidly becoming overpopulated and consuming natural resources at an alarming rate, we see this!

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-41931770/poles-told-to-breed-like-rabbits-to-fight-falling-birth-rate
A Polish government ad has used the example of bunny rabbits to try to encourage people to have more babies.
But it's not the only advert encouraging people to do it for the children.



They seem to be forgetting that they've successfully exported many of the most productive (in every respect) people in recent years.

The German solution has been to open the floodgates to migrants, a similar plan to many other countries in Europe.

Poland obviously wants their "production units" home grown.

Just goes to show that the ruling elite are on a different planet to the rest of us!.
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 09 Nov 2017, 15:53:47

Indeed!
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 09 Nov 2017, 19:00:42

Truly. They must be economist.
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby Ibon » Fri 10 Nov 2017, 06:57:32

Yep, made me think about how in poor agrarian areas families want a lot of kids to help with the farm work and how the oligarchs in countries want population growth to fuel the wealth pump that flows up into their coffers.

What would the conditions have to be that would create incentives for de growth?
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 10 Nov 2017, 08:16:22

Yes as Ibon says our species has been compelled to grow both economically and in numbers. To me that became evident when in the last couple of decades both India and China decided to pursue economic growth policies. Also, recently when China decided to scrap its one child policy. So, I do not think our species is capable of voluntarily shifting its cultural and biological drives to procreate and to live a modern lifestyle until drastic consequences make a widespread mark on us.

By drastic, I believe sizable die off and a substantial fall off in industrial civilization worldwide. So in essence, we have passed the stage when intentional proactive change can make a difference. Which is why I am a firm follower of Ibon's thesis that only serious Consequences exogenous to us will stop this runaway train.
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 10 Nov 2017, 21:47:05

Recently we had a link on our front page to a short interview with Dr. Rees of Global Footprint game. Among other things he noted we are depleting our soil at 10 to 40 times the ability it has to rejuvenate. On the face of it the implication is our sustainable population is 2.5% to 10% of existing.

We can likely drive better than that since our lands are being depleted to grow fuel, etc. Then again this is just ONE factor.
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The Book That Incited a Worldwide Fear of Overpopulation

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 03 Jan 2018, 17:32:46

As 1968 began, Paul Ehrlich was an entomologist at Stanford University, known to his peers for his groundbreaking studies of the co-evolution of flowering plants and butterflies but almost unknown to the average person. That was about to change. In May, Ehrlich released a quickly written, cheaply bound paperback, The Population Bomb. Initially it was ignored. But over time Ehrlich’s tract would sell millions of copies and turn its author into a celebrity. It would become one of the most influential books of the 20th century—and one of the most heatedly attacked. The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity is over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised, “hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No matter what people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the


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A Quarter of the World’s Population Could be Living in a Des

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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 18 Mar 2018, 10:05:07

The population bomb has been defused...

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... starvation

...or not...

This has some interesting charts on declining rates of pop increase, but they don't really come up with a different conclusion than other studies...we're heading for 11 billion plus by the end of the century.

So nothing really much new, mostly a lot of Malthus- and Ehrlich-bashing.
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 18 Mar 2018, 11:46:57

Adam linked it elsewhere. I didn’t bother to read it. To me just the title discredits the piece.
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby onlooker » Sun 18 Mar 2018, 17:44:32

Newfie wrote:Adam linked it elsewhere. I didn’t bother to read it. To me just the title discredits the piece.

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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby onlooker » Thu 05 Jul 2018, 06:50:52

Highlights the unsustainable nature of current human population levels
A study led by the University of Leeds has found that no country currently meets its citizens’ basic needs at a globally sustainable level of resource use.


https://www.leeds.ac.uk/news/article/41 ... nets_means
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 27 Jul 2018, 10:42:05

The world’s fastest-growing populations are in the Middle East and Africa. Here's why

To put this into perspective, Africa’s population is expected to double to 2 billion by 2050. By 2100 its population could easily have doubled again. If that happens, at least four billion of the world’s 11 billion people will be African.

This unprecedented growth is largely due to the fact that infant mortality rates are down significantly and life expectancy has improved. Birth rates remain high at about five children per woman.

Meanwhile, in the Middle East, a combination of a rapidly increasing youth population and an influx of migrant workers has propelled countries such as Kuwait and Oman into the top 10 fastest-growing populations.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/05/ ... and-africa
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 28 Jul 2018, 13:21:16

"Birth rates remain high at about five children per woman."

That's where you have to tackle the problem. Fight to give women rights to choose how many children they have, give them some financial security and basic healthcare, and few will choose to have more than two kids.
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 28 Jul 2018, 14:11:09

That's where you have to tackle the problem. Fight to give women rights to choose how many children they have, give them some financial security and basic healthcare, and few will choose to have more than two kids.

That is the way it should have been but I doubt that is in the cards now as LTG of various kinds put the world under ever more severe restraints.
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Re: THE Global Population Thread Pt. 4

Unread postby Newfie » Sun 29 Jul 2018, 04:47:12

Here is a not wit article bemoaning the low population growth rate in the USA.

From the Washington Examiner

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/artic ... 37639.html
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