ROCKMAN wrote:
So again the same question that no one has answered: why aren't they going after the folks who actually generate so much more GHG the XOM? And actually if you want to sue the actual source of those fossil fuels the suite should be brought against all the mineral owners in the US: the oil/NG produced by XOM et al belongs to those individuals. If they didn't lease their mineral rights to the oil patch none of those fossil fuels would be produced by XOM et all and neither would those fossil fuel consumers be generating all that GHG. Of course that suite would have to include the US govt: by far the biggest single mineral owner a (including coal) in the US and thus the largest provider of fossil fuels to be converted into GHG. Which, oddly enough, would effectively be the same as suing all US citizens.
The Rockman still patiently awaits a answer. LOL
ExxonMobil is under investigation by the New York Attorney General for withholding information from both its shareholders and the public about the risks of climate change.
In a statement on Thursday, ExxonMobil confirmed that it has received a subpoena requesting documents and information pertaining to climate change.
In the statement, ExxonMobil (XOM) "unequivocally" rejected any accusations that it had hidden climate change research.
"ExxonMobil has included information about the business risk of climate change for many years in our 10-K, Corporate Citizenship Report and in other reports to shareholders," the statement said.
The oil and gas corporation, which recently posted poor earnings, said it has a "nearly 40-year history of climate research." ExxonMobil said the research was gathered through a collaboration with the U.S. Department of Energy, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and academics.
GHung wrote:ExxonMobil is under investigation by the New York Attorney General for withholding information from both its shareholders and the public about the risks of climate change.
At a meeting in Exxon Corporation's headquarters, a senior company scientist named James F. Black addressed an audience of powerful oilmen. Speaking without a text as he flipped through detailed slides, Black delivered a sobering message: carbon dioxide from the world's use of fossil fuels would warm the planet and could eventually endanger humanity.
“In the first place, there is general scientific agreement that the most likely manner in which mankind is influencing the global climate is through carbon dioxide release from the burning of fossil fuels,” Black told Exxon's Management Committee, according to a written version he recorded later.
It was July 1977 when Exxon's leaders received this blunt assessment, well before most of the world had heard of the looming climate crisis.
A year later, Black, a top technical expert in Exxon's Research & Engineering division, took an updated version of his presentation to a broader audience. He warned Exxon scientists and managers that independent researchers estimated a doubling of the carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration in the atmosphere would increase average global temperatures by 2 to 3 degrees Celsius (4 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit), and as much as 10 degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit) at the poles. Rainfall might get heavier in some regions, and other places might turn to desert.
“Some countries would benefit but others would have their agricultural output reduced or destroyed,” Black said, in the written summary of his 1978 talk.
So they knew. Yet:
Then, toward the end of the 1980s, Exxon curtailed its carbon dioxide research. In the decades that followed, Exxon worked instead at the forefront of climate denial. It put its muscle behind efforts to manufacture doubt about the reality of global warming its own scientists had once confirmed. It lobbied to block federal and international action to control greenhouse gas emissions. It helped to erect a vast edifice of misinformation that stands to this day.
Exxon Probed by New York in Toughest U.S. Climate Crackdown Yet
The investigation is seeking information on whether the world’s biggest oil explorer lied to investors and the public for almost 40 years about the impact of climate change on profits, the person said. As a manufacturer of 10 million gallons of gasoline and other fuels every hour of every day, Exxon is one of the world’s largest sources of carbon-heavy energy. Environmental activists cheered New York’s action, calling for more agencies to join the probe.
Schneiderman “is leading the charge to further expose the hypocrisy of fossil fuel companies like Exxon Mobil and hold them accountable for denying climate change to the public and blocking necessary action for decades,” Greenpeace spokesman Rodrigo Estrada said
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/science/more-oil-companies-could-join-exxon-mobil-as-focus-of-climate-investigations.html?_r=0
More Oil Companies Could Join Exxon Mobil as Focus of Climate Investigations
“Exxon Mobil is not alone,” said Stephen Zamora, a professor at the University of Houston Law Center. “This is not likely to be an isolated matter.”
Energy experts said prosecutors may decide to investigate companies that chose to fund or join organizations that questioned climate science or policies designed to address the problem, such as the Global Climate Coalition and the American Legislative Exchange Council, to see if discrepancies exist between the companies’ public and private statements.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/science/more-oil-companies-could-join-exxon-mobil-as-focus-of-climate-investigations.html?_r=0
onlooker wrote:Six, your talking alot of hogwash here. First of all it is not a partisan thing,
"Energy experts said prosecutors may decide to investigate companies that chose to fund or join organizations that questioned climate science or policies designed to address the problem, such as the Global Climate Coalition and the American Legislative Exchange Council."
it is something that is and will affect adversely (starvation) all human beings regardless of party, sex, race, religion etc. Second, it is not an ideological inquisition witch hunt. For God's sake man this is precisely about SCIENCE.
dohboi wrote:It's so sweat to see the mighty 6S running to the aid of poor little put-upon Exxon (wealthiest corporation since money was invented)!
"Energy experts said prosecutors may decide to investigate companies that chose to fund or join organizations that questioned climate science or policies designed to address the problem, such as the Global Climate Coalition and the American Legislative Exchange Council."
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